Players 🦴 Nah'Shon "Bones" Hyland 🦴

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I’m hoping for some fun insider videos and interviews with Bones soon. Info for Ram Nation subscribers is severely anemic but at least there’s no ads to scroll through.
 
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I’m hoping for some fun insider videos and interviews with Bones soon. Info for Ram Nation subscribers is severely anemic but at least there’s no ads to scroll through.
On one hand, I wonder what the benefit is to being an insider, on the other, I don't mind $6.00 a month to support the running of the web site. But it would be nice to get a little bang for the buck.
 

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On one hand, I wonder what the benefit is to being an insider, on the other, I don't mind $6.00 a month to support the running of the web site. But it would be nice to get a little bang for the buck.
Totally understand, and we are so thankful for the support, it does help us keep this place running. Insider does remove ads, so that's always nice. But we do have some content coming in the near future, one thing is a interview with some former Rams at a gym where Bones has been playing, a lot of commentary there from guys like Rozzell. Also have been trying to book Bones for an interview for months, it's just very hard to get a hold of him. Hoping we can start doing some in-person stuff in the near future (respecting health protocols, etc), I've always loved getting to sit down with the players, and the quality that our guy Michael produces on those videos.
 

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You got to look out for those "White Supremacist groups" ... they're everywhere on VCU campus , lurking in the shadows, ducking behind bushes and trash cans, stalking the alleyways, roaming the rooftops, congregating in empty buildings, plotting, scheming, ... Beware!
I think you missed the point. You stated exactly what I was doing at. SMDH
 

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Only point I was trying to make is that if your kid had the option of going to school in a locale that might not pose a risk to his safety, regardless of who the perpetrators were, wouldn’t you prefer or at least factor that in to the decision.
I get it but almost any place in the US save maybe Stanford or Pepperdine has some issues to someone. What's going on in Richmond really isnt enough to deter most folks.
 

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Totally understand, and we are so thankful for the support, it does help us keep this place running. Insider does remove ads, so that's always nice. But we do have some content coming in the near future, one thing is a interview with some former Rams at a gym where Bones has been playing, a lot of commentary there from guys like Rozzell. Also have been trying to book Bones for an interview for months, it's just very hard to get a hold of him. Hoping we can start doing some in-person stuff in the near future (respecting health protocols, etc), I've always loved getting to sit down with the players, and the quality that our guy Michael produces on those videos.
I've always enjoyed your interviews and look forward to Bones on video!
 

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Totally understand, and we are so thankful for the support, it does help us keep this place running. Insider does remove ads, so that's always nice. But we do have some content coming in the near future, one thing is a interview with some former Rams at a gym where Bones has been playing, a lot of commentary there from guys like Rozzell. Also have been trying to book Bones for an interview for months, it's just very hard to get a hold of him. Hoping we can start doing some in-person stuff in the near future (respecting health protocols, etc), I've always loved getting to sit down with the players, and the quality that our guy Michael produces on those videos.
Thanks for all you guys do. And forever I will enjoy my time spent online at VCURAMNATION.com. I'm convinced we have the most diverse and inclusive message board in the hemisphere. And GO RAMS!
 
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Totally understand, and we are so thankful for the support, it does help us keep this place running. Insider does remove ads, so that's always nice. But we do have some content coming in the near future, one thing is a interview with some former Rams at a gym where Bones has been playing, a lot of commentary there from guys like Rozzell. Also have been trying to book Bones for an interview for months, it's just very hard to get a hold of him. Hoping we can start doing some in-person stuff in the near future (respecting health protocols, etc), I've always loved getting to sit down with the players, and the quality that our guy Michael produces on those videos.
Thanks for the update! The ad-free benefit is great for sure.
 
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Totally understand, and we are so thankful for the support, it does help us keep this place running. Insider does remove ads, so that's always nice. But we do have some content coming in the near future, one thing is a interview with some former Rams at a gym where Bones has been playing, a lot of commentary there from guys like Rozzell. Also have been trying to book Bones for an interview for months, it's just very hard to get a hold of him. Hoping we can start doing some in-person stuff in the near future (respecting health protocols, etc), I've always loved getting to sit down with the players, and the quality that our guy Michael produces on those videos.
I don't expect updates in the off season
 
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Ok so I had some time to kill and decided to take on this exercise
Here is the Data reference point used.
VCU List Bones at 6'3" 165 lbs on last years roster.
For the first set, I used NBA players between 6'0" and 6'4" that were <= 185lbs.
For the second set I used NBA players between 6'0" and 6'4" that were <= 199lbs.(Note CJ McCollum was also listed at 6'3" 165 as a freshman at Leigh and he is currently listed at 6'3" 195lbs for the most recent NBA roster)


7% or 33 NBA players have a similar build and size to Freshman Bones(6-6'4 less 185 or less)

In the group below, Lou Williams, Dennis Schroder, Patrick Beverley and Rajon Rondo are some comparables as to how I see Bones fitting in the NBA

www.nba.com/players/jordan/bone/1629648
www.nba.com/players/avery/bradley/202340
www.nba.com/players/trey/burke/203504
www.nba.com/players/quinn/cook/1626188
www.nba.com/players/seth/curry/203552
www.nba.com/players/stephen/curry/201939
www.nba.com/players/yogi/ferrell/1627812
www.nba.com/players/de'aaron/fox/1628368
www.nba.com/players/brandon/goodwin/1629164
www.nba.com/players/josh/gray/1627982
www.nba.com/players/kyle/guy/1629657
www.nba.com/players/aaron/holiday/1628988
www.nba.com/players/brandon/knight/202688
www.nba.com/players/jalen/lecque/1629665
www.nba.com/players/jeremiah/martin/1629725
www.nba.com/players/patty/mills/201988
www.nba.com/players/ja/morant/1629630
www.nba.com/players/monte/morris/1628420
www.nba.com/players/mychal/mulder/1628539
www.nba.com/players/dejounte/murray/1627749
www.nba.com/players/shabazz/napier/203894
www.nba.com/players/raul/neto/203526
www.nba.com/players/chris/paul/101108
www.nba.com/players/cameron/payne/1626166
www.nba.com/players/anfernee/simons/1629014
www.nba.com/players/ish/smith/202397
www.nba.com/players/kemba/walker/202689
www.nba.com/players/trae/young/1629027

Now assume Bones can put on 30lbs like CJ and that increase the number of similar NBA players to 16% of NBA players or 73. In that group I would then say George Hill, CJ McCollum and Elfrid Payton become similar comparisons



As for Eric, like many before him and there will be many afterwards, he was just not able to return to his old self post tearing his ACL
A query of similar listed heights and weights? In that case Vann’s comp is Kobe, DJ is Michael Jordan, and MSS is Charles Barkley. Should have had a better year. Sure physical size is important, all things being equal the bigger player has an advantage. But I would say that is the least of it. Looking at a few pics of those players as a college freshmen, nobody is a slight as bones (posting a bunch of pics of young guys would be a little weird). But I don’t think that’s a huge deal. If he can do what they want, he’ll make it.

At this point, comparisons to like Curry, Kemba Walker, Chris Paul are a little ridiculous. Elite defenders like Bradley, Rondo, Beverley – No. Freak athletes like Fox, Morant – No. Most of that list is whittled away thinking how he may play. CJ McCollum, OK that may be reasonable. People were down on his size and athleticism coming out and he has not had any problems. McCollum averaged 19 ppg as a freshmen for a team that won the league, pretty big gap to Bones 9 ppg for a lousy VCU squad. CJ scored on people every way a player could and scored more points than anyone VCU history despite missing most of his senior year. There is a lot of space between here and there.

The best comp I can think of in terms of how he may play is Monte Morris. Morris is about as small as anyone mentioned, and not really a specialist of any sort. Just a really good general purpose PG who can do a bit of everything. Good shooter, plays tough, can create. Still not nearly as wispy as a freshmen (freshmen year below) and probably better going to the rim or creating his own shot besides a three. In high school Morris was the Michigan State POY a parade all American. As a freshman he moved a first team all BIG 12 guard off the ball for a team who was ranked all year and finished 9th in the county, setting the NCAA record for assist/turnover ratio in the process. Morris broke his own record as a senior, was 2x second team all Big 12 and 1x 1st team. Over 1700 career points in an elite conference while being 3rd in B12 history in career assists, and the all-time NCAA leader in assist vs turnovers (Iowa St was one of the highest scoring teams in the county every year he played, so that stat is even more impressive). He was big in the clutch to. And this guy nearly fell out of the draft and spent time in the G-league before making the team in Denver, where he is a really good player off the bench. Comp in size, playing style, skills and what an NBA team would want Bones to do - running the team some, hitting 3s and squirting through seams - just better. Players of Morris’s caliber are who Bones will compete with for a roster spot. Not saying he won’t or can’t, but it’s that how competitive it is and slightest thing is the difference in being in the NBA or not.
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A query of similar listed heights and weights? In that case Vann’s comp is Kobe, DJ is Michael Jordan, and MSS is Charles Barkley. Should have had a better year. Sure physical size is important, all things being equal the bigger player has an advantage. But I would say that is the least of it. Looking at a few pics of those players as a college freshmen, nobody is a slight as bones (posting a bunch of pics of young guys would be a little weird). But I don’t think that’s a huge deal. If he can do what they want, he’ll make it.

At this point, comparisons to like Curry, Kemba Walker, Chris Paul are a little ridiculous. Elite defenders like Bradley, Rondo, Beverley – No. Freak athletes like Fox, Morant – No. Most of that list is whittled away thinking how he may play. CJ McCollum, OK that may be reasonable. People were down on his size and athleticism coming out and he has not had any problems. McCollum averaged 19 ppg as a freshmen for a team that won the league, pretty big gap to Bones 9 ppg for a lousy VCU squad. CJ scored on people every way a player could and scored more points than anyone VCU history despite missing most of his senior year. There is a lot of space between here and there.

The best comp I can think of in terms of how he may play is Monte Morris. Morris is about as small as anyone mentioned, and not really a specialist of any sort. Just a really good general purpose PG who can do a bit of everything. Good shooter, plays tough, can create. Still not nearly as wispy as a freshmen (freshmen year below) and probably better going to the rim or creating his own shot besides a three. In high school Morris was the Michigan State POY a parade all American. As a freshman he moved a first team all BIG 12 guard off the ball for a team who was ranked all year and finished 9th in the county, setting the NCAA record for assist/turnover ratio in the process. Morris broke his own record as a senior, was 2x second team all Big 12 and 1x 1st team. Over 1700 career points in an elite conference while being 3rd in B12 history in career assists, and the all-time NCAA leader in assist vs turnovers (Iowa St was one of the highest scoring teams in the county every year he played, so that stat is even more impressive). He was big in the clutch to. And this guy nearly fell out of the draft and spent time in the G-league before making the team in Denver, where he is a really good player off the bench. Comp in size, playing style, skills and what an NBA team would want Bones to do - running the team some, hitting 3s and squirting through seams - just better. Players of Morris’s caliber are who Bones will compete with for a roster spot. Not saying he won’t or can’t, but it’s that how competitive it is and slightest thing is the difference in being in the NBA or not.
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Let me start by saying I appreciate your take and I am not here to either argue or try to change your mind. The question you posed was

Could anyone name some comps in the NBA of similar size, build, skills?

The query in its whole address the first two size and build, I then identified a segment of players of which I think there is a similar skillset, to which people can agree or disagree.

I agree wholeheartedly that its the little things that make the difference between making the NBA and not, especially if you are not 7ft tall' I don't know what the future holds for him professionally but I do believe he far and away has at this moment the best chance of anyone on the roster that we have seen play

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Here are the 10 Freshman between 6’2” and 6’4” in the last decade to shoot 140+ threes at a 35% or better clip while maintain a BPM of over 5 and greater than 55% true shooting. More bluntly, this is a list of Freshman guards who have matched Hyland’s shooting volume and efficiency while being clear-cut positive impact college players. (per BartTorvik)
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This is a strong group of guys. While he is second to last on this list in BPM, he’s also 1st in 3-point rate and 3rd in 3-point percentage.

Going back to a name that popped earlier in this piece, here are Clippers Guard Landry Shamet’s stats per 40 minutes in his first full season at Wichita State compared to Nah’Shon Hyland’s this year.