20-21 Opponent Tracking

RowdyPkunk

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Only problem is Mason is bad now and odu is terrible. Far cry from the VA dynasty in the CAA.
True... but the hatred among fans is still there. Plus we'd possibly get a chance to beat Fodu twice a year (maybe even 3x) again.

Plus come conference tournament time... they'd still bring more fans thans someone like Fordham.
 
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True... but the hatred among fans is still there. Plus we'd possibly get a chance to beat Fodu twice a year (maybe even 3x) again.

Plus come conference tournament time... they'd still bring more fans thans someone like Fordham.
Honestly I’d rather get Belmont and Murray State than Mason. I’d probably say the same for odu these days. I still hate odu but what’s good for the conference comes before personal feelings.
 
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RowdyPkunk

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Out of Conference Opponents
Utah State*- (13-5) (Crossover Classic)
#15 West Virginia*- (11-4) (Crossover Classic)
Memphis*- (9-6) (Crossover Classic)
@ Penn State (5-7)
Mount St. Mary's- (5-6)
North Carolina A&T- (5-9)
Old Dominion (7-4)
Western Carolina (7-7)
James Madison (8-5)


Conference Opponents
@ Saint Joseph's (1-13) (0-8 in A-10)
Davidson x2 (10-5) (6-2 in A-10)
George Mason x2 (8-6) (4-4 in A-10)
Rhode Island x2 (9-8) (6-4 in A-10)
@ George Washington (3-9) (2-3 in A-10)
Richmond x2 (10-4) (4-2 in A-10)
Dayton x2 (9-4) (5-3 in A-10)
UMass (5-4) (4-2 in A-10)
La Salle (7-9) (4-5 in A-10)
@ Duquesne (5-6) (4-5 in A-10)
Fordham (1-8) (1-8 in A-10)
@ St. Bonaventure (8-1) (6-1 in A-10)
Saint Louis (7-2) (0-1 in A-10)

Non Conference Opponent Record: 70-52
Conference Opponent Record: 83-80 (45-47 in conference play)
Combined Overall Record: 153-132
 
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TampaKAP

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Well, you still have to win some games to benefit from it. They’re being propped up by wins over Virginia Tech (in a blowout, margin of victory factors into NET), VCU, and Rutgers. All three of these have Q1 potential, and VT already is Q1.
Yes and no. 2019 Vanderbilt was 0-13 in conference 9-23 overall and finished with a 155 net. Q1(0-13), Q2(3-8), Q3(0-2), and Q4(6-0). In 2021 that same team is currently Net 170 0-6 in conference 4-8 overall Q1(0-5),Q2(0-2), Q3(0-1), Q4(4-0) The key it seems at first glance is don't loose Q4 games and play as many Q1 games as possible even if you loose
 

duncanlamb

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Penn State’s NET rating actually improved after its loss to Ohio State, from #39 to #36. Increases in Virginia Tech and VCU’s NET probably offset any impact from their loss.

Absolutely. Penn st. hasnt really collapsed. They lost by 4 to michigan, by 2 to Indiana, by 8 to Purdue, and by 4 to Ohio st.

They have won their last 2 of their last 3: North western and Rutgers.

The only team to beat them decisively is Illinois by 18 and 14 respectively.

Keep in mind, they blew out tech by 20!

They have back to back games against #10 wisconsin. If they split or even win both those games then they are in the conversation again for at large bid.

They achilles is lack of athletic size up front against teams like illinois and Iowa. They are terrific on the wings and perimeter.
 

RamDanFan

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Well, you still have to win some games to benefit from it. They’re being propped up by wins over Virginia Tech (in a blowout, margin of victory factors into NET), VCU, and Rutgers. All three of these have Q1 potential, and VT already is Q1.

My understanding is that margin of victory was removed as part of the calculation.
 
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WillWeaverRVA

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My understanding is that margin of victory was removed as part of the calculation.
That's really weird, then, because the NET almost seems like it still takes that into account. I guess they're benefiting from their extremely high adjusted efficiency rating (despite having a losing record, they are ranked #10 on Haslametrics in overall efficiency and #18 on Torvik in offensive efficiency).
 
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N Mollen

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That's really weird, then, because the NET almost seems like it still takes that into account. I guess they're benefiting from their extremely high adjusted efficiency rating (despite having a losing record, they are ranked #10 on Haslametrics in overall efficiency and #18 on Torvik in offensive efficiency).
Yup. They eliminated margin (capped at 10) because they decided it was essentially double-counting. Under the old system, beating a team by 25 points would mean a maxed margin of victory at 10 points. But beating a team by 25 points would also typically mean a strong efficiency margin, so a team would still get full credit for its 25-point win, and credit for "margin of victory up to 10."
 
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RowdyPkunk

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Out of Conference Opponents
Utah State*- (13-5) (Crossover Classic)
#15 West Virginia*- (11-4) (Crossover Classic)
Memphis*- (9-6) (Crossover Classic)
@ Penn State (5-7)
Mount St. Mary's- (5-6)
North Carolina A&T- (5-9)
Old Dominion (7-4)
Western Carolina (7-7)
James Madison (8-5)


Conference Opponents
@ Saint Joseph's (1-13) (0-8 in A-10)
Davidson x2 (10-5) (6-2 in A-10)
George Mason x2 (8-6) (4-4 in A-10)
Rhode Island x2 (9-8) (6-4 in A-10)
@ George Washington (3-9) (2-3 in A-10)
Richmond x2 (10-4) (4-2 in A-10)
Dayton x2 (9-4) (5-3 in A-10)
UMass (5-4) (4-2 in A-10)
La Salle (7-9) (4-5 in A-10)
@ Duquesne (5-6) (4-5 in A-10)
Fordham (1-8) (1-8 in A-10)
@ St. Bonaventure (8-1) (6-1 in A-10)
Saint Louis (7-2) (0-1 in A-10)

Non Conference Opponent Record: 70-52
Conference Opponent Record: 83-80 (45-47 in conference play)
Combined Overall Record: 153-132
 
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