2022-23 NET rankings and metrics

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So apparently the NCAA made some major tweaks to their SOS formula, to the point that Bracketologists.com now shows both the old-style SOS and the new-style one. There are some major differences - VCU's RPI SOS is 78 while their NET SOS is 110. Saint Louis, though...


Fwiw, our RPI was 27 at year end last season. Overall SOS was 16. Prior to NET and this quadrant trash that would not only have been a bid but a safe one.
 

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So apparently the NCAA made some major tweaks to their SOS formula, to the point that Bracketologists.com now shows both the old-style SOS and the new-style one. There are some major differences - VCU's RPI SOS is 78 while their NET SOS is 110. Saint Louis, though...


Just their next step in making the NCAA tournament a top 5/6 conference event (with a few exceptions).
 

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VCU is NOT to blame for this, but we also aren't holding up our end as much as we could.
Same could be said for Dayton and SLU the last few years too. We've all had a few underwhelming seasons.
Never said we were to blame. Though you could argue whether not continuing to rise as a program made us less appealing for possible relocation to another conference.
 

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I'm not saying you are wrong, but we've played Radford exactly 1 time in the 21st century. The "dropped two of last four" is kind of an odd take.
It's his tired take about VCU thinking we're better than lower rated state schools.
 

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So apparently the NCAA made some major tweaks to their SOS formula, to the point that Bracketologists.com now shows both the old-style SOS and the new-style one. There are some major differences - VCU's RPI SOS is 78 while their NET SOS is 110. Saint Louis, though...


These type of scams are why I wouldn't be surprised if more and more people get turned off by sports in the coming years. That and increasingly more entertainment options means these sports entities need to be careful.
 
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Of course it's Mike Rhoades' fault we got blown out by Radford back in 1998.

Who said anything about blaming Mike Rhoades for anything? VCU is incredibly lucky to have him, and I hope he stays another 15 years ... my point is about look-down-your-nose scheduling. VCU has played on the road at JMU, Radford, Longwood, Liberty and Hampton at times when the Rams had multiple NCAA appearances, national recognition, and those in-state schools were on D-1 training wheels. All those road trips have been scratched, along with, omg, ODU. In fact, I doubt VCU would play at GMU if the Patsies weren't in the A10. It really wasn't until fairly recent times that VCU had the revenue or the willingness to "buy" a five-game home winning streak that is about to begin. Such things don't come cheap. Eventually, I suppose the Rams will play one high-profile tournament outside of Richmond and then 11 "buy" games to assure a record of no worse than 11-2 heading into conference. You can't blame VCU ... if fans are willing to pay $40 for one scoop of ice cream, why give them two?
 

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Never said we were to blame. Though you could argue whether not continuing to rise as a program made us less appealing for possible relocation to another conference.
Honestly I wasn't really responding to your post, I was just providing my generic opinion on the A10's stature as a whole and how VCU plays into it. My bad if it came off like I was disagreeing with you, I just happened to be responding to your comment.
 

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Who said anything about blaming Mike Rhoades for anything? VCU is incredibly lucky to have him, and I hope he stays another 15 years ... my point is about look-down-your-nose scheduling. VCU has played on the road at JMU, Radford, Longwood, Liberty and Hampton at times when the Rams had multiple NCAA appearances, national recognition, and those in-state schools were on D-1 training wheels. All those road trips have been scratched, along with, omg, ODU. In fact, I doubt VCU would play at GMU if the Patsies weren't in the A10. It really wasn't until fairly recent times that VCU had the revenue or the willingness to "buy" a five-game home winning streak that is about to begin. Eventually, I suppose the Rams will play one high-profile tournament outside of Richmond and then 11 "buy" games to assure a record of no worse than 11-2 heading into conference. You can't blame VCU ... if fans are willing to pay $40 for one scoop of ice cream, why give them two?
Mason sucks.
 

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Who said anything about blaming Mike Rhoades for anything? VCU is incredibly lucky to have him, and I hope he stays another 15 years ... my point is about look-down-your-nose scheduling. VCU has played on the road at JMU, Radford, Longwood, Liberty and Hampton at times when the Rams had multiple NCAA appearances, national recognition, and those in-state schools were on D-1 training wheels. All those road trips have been scratched, along with, omg, ODU. In fact, I doubt VCU would play at GMU if the Patsies weren't in the A10. It really wasn't until fairly recent times that VCU had the revenue or the willingness to "buy" a five-game home winning streak that is about to begin. Such things don't come cheap. Eventually, I suppose the Rams will play one high-profile tournament outside of Richmond and then 11 "buy" games to assure a record of no worse than 11-2 heading into conference. You can't blame VCU ... if fans are willing to pay $40 for one scoop of ice cream, why give them two?
It was a joke.
 

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Who said anything about blaming Mike Rhoades for anything? VCU is incredibly lucky to have him, and I hope he stays another 15 years ... my point is about look-down-your-nose scheduling. VCU has played on the road at JMU, Radford, Longwood, Liberty and Hampton at times when the Rams had multiple NCAA appearances, national recognition, and those in-state schools were on D-1 training wheels. All those road trips have been scratched, along with, omg, ODU. In fact, I doubt VCU would play at GMU if the Patsies weren't in the A10. It really wasn't until fairly recent times that VCU had the revenue or the willingness to "buy" a five-game home winning streak that is about to begin. Such things don't come cheap. Eventually, I suppose the Rams will play one high-profile tournament outside of Richmond and then 11 "buy" games to assure a record of no worse than 11-2 heading into conference. You can't blame VCU ... if fans are willing to pay $40 for one scoop of ice cream, why give them two?
I figured you'd eventually get to your pet issue regarding buy games.
 

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Conference realignment is intended to consolidate resources in as few schools as possible. The 6ish conferences that currently have the most are prioritizing themselves more blatantly than before to the continued detriment of everyone else. If any of this sounds unfamiliar I suggest starting with Capital volume I.

VCU is going to continue to suffer through realignment. We're the little guy! It's hard for me to imagine a future where we experience regular growth cause there's only one way out. Just keep fostering the mid major revolution in your hearts and maybe one day we can change things for real. Go Rams!
 
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