2022-23 NET rankings and metrics

[ramluvr99]

Nah. Fordhams record is fools gold. Their SOS is like 330 something and their offense is awful. They are ok on defense....against bad teams.

fordham is legit

 

[dwhite]

They beat the duquesne and st. bonaventure when we couldn't. Both on the road.

Ok. My point stands.
Also the metrics (Bart Torvik) say we beat Fordham by 10 with an 83% chance of victory.

 

[artRAMinMN]

Remember that the NET number we are looking at is not a fixed scale, it's a ranking, so a lot depends on how all the neighbors above and below are doing too.

 

[VCU Finance 2008]

Remember that the NET number we are looking at is not a fixed scale, it's a ranking, so a lot depends on how all the neighbors above and below are doing too.

No one understands that part.

 

[VCU94MCV98]

Would love to sweep Dayton and SLU in the same season but the schedule is treacherous now.

Dayton, SLU, and FUR looking for revenge on our floor. They're gonna come in swinging.

@ URI, Fordham, and GW total trap games. Fordham has improved and Bishop can really go off.

Eh. At times like this, I remember what a wise man once said:

"Fvck Gaspar Gomez, and fvrk the fvrkin' Diaz brothers. I bury those rooster-a-roaches!"


Edit: Loved the autocorrect, so I left it as-is!

 

[Sethjax]

We move up 3 to 79…SLU drops 5…makes no sense…losing at home is more impactful than winning on the road. Huh.

 

[jcchappy]

We have to recognize that every non-P5 conf is now a mid-major, except the Big East (who will be left out in another 2-3 years).. The NCAA only cares about those conferences, and the past few years have shown this shift during tournament selection. All the concern about NET rankings is wasted. The days of the A10 sending 3 or 4 teams to the tournament are gone for good, at best we’ll send 2 teams this and every future year. It sucks and is frustrating; but it’s reality.

 

[LLLeopold]

We have to recognize that every non-P5 conf is now a mid-major, except the Big East (who will be left out in another 2-3 years).. The NCAA only cares about those conferences, and the past few years have Thshown this shift during tournament selection. All the concern about NET rankings is wasted. The days of the A10 sending 3 or 4 teams to the tournament are gone for good, at best we’ll send 2 teams this and every future year. It sucks and is frustrating; but it’s reality.

The A-10 wI’ll get back to sending 3+ teams.

When the field expands to 90.

 

[theghostofwiltchamberlain]

So we jumped 20 spots in the rpi.

Pitt could very well win the ACC and we could finish with a top 30 rpi and this NET bullpoop would have us near the bubble whilst losing 8 of their last 9 Ohio State is a comfortable 6/7 seed.

 

[mrgeode]

So we jumped 20 spots in the rpi.

Pitt could very well win the ACC and we could finish with a top 30 rpi and this NET bullpoop would have us near the bubble whilst losing 8 of their last 9 Ohio State is a comfortable 6/7 seed.

That is a feature, not a bug. It works as intended.

 

[WillWeaverRVA]

That is a feature, not a bug. It works as intended.

Yup. It’s why Virginia Tech is on the bubble despite being 3-8 in ACC play.

 

[BaNgMyPrOgRaM]

The NET rewards P5's for just playing another P5.

 

[Half-baked Mcbride]

They beat the duquesne and st. bonaventure when we couldn't. Both on the road.

Yea, there's only two teams above .500 on the road in the A10 this year, and they're both Rams....spoiler alert, Rhody is not one of them.

I'm not sure if I'd call Fordham "legit"... (plus @dwhite is totally correct. Fordham's schedule is softer than the Pillsbury Doughboy)

but they are certainly not the doormats of old, and winning on the road has value.

That being said, I'll eat the Air Rodney suit if Fordham beats us at home in a couple weeks

 

[RamLover]

Really?
VCU was at 70 before the Bonnies game.
Let's say we win that game as expected and stay around 70.
After two solid road games against Davidson and SLU, you don't think we would be in the upper 50's or low 60's??
Come on!

Again, no matter how many people quote me and say I’m wrong right after, it matters what all of our opponents do.

 

[RamLover]

So we jumped 20 spots in the rpi.

Pitt could very well win the ACC and we could finish with a top 30 rpi and this NET bullpoop would have us near the bubble whilst losing 8 of their last 9 Ohio State is a comfortable 6/7 seed.

That’s exactly why I was saying so much has changed since NET became a thing. The current metrics they care about matters, and it’s harder now for us to be considered for an at-large with the same kind of sos as those seasons we always made it before.

It’s why we can’t compare past and current coaches when it comes to getting an at-large.

Jacksonville and SBU just killed us, but honestly not as much as not having a big team on our schedule. Remember, last year Dayton was the first team out with a quad 4 loss, but they beat Kansas (I think), which made them more at-large worthy in the committee’s eyes. When you don’t even have opportunity to play a team like that, you’re at a disadvantage before the team even plays the first game.