22-23 Opponent Tracking Thread

[mike7842]

It is always a good day when the Spiders lose.

 

[Violet Ram]

You said it was unadjusted, I was just going from that.
Example, Pitt beat a very, very bad Louisville team last night. Their efficiency was off the charts good, but L-ville is one of the bottom 20 teams in the NET. They gained 3 places in the NET. Should they gain three places for beating a bottom 20 team badly? Now I'm happy Pitt gained 3 spots, puts them only two away from being a Q1 for us.
Point is WE DON'T KNOW just how the NET works, because they won't tell us. A lot of it makes no sense, none at all. You are far, far from convincing me otherwise. I understand your argument, but a lot of the actual data doesn't work out that way. And no my analysis is not wrong.

When did I say NET is unadjusted efficiency? I said it uses unadjusted efficiency as an input, which just means it's using game data.

You're not using data, you're using "this didn't move VCU more" which is hardly objective. Also, NET rankings are displayed as an ordinal rank. You have no clue how much raw numbers are moving. The difference between teams 351 and 340 may be significantly less than those ranked 50-60.

Tbh, I don't think you can be convinced because you have some black and gold tinted glasses and don't want to make the effort to understand what NET is clearly.

 

[RowdyPkunk]

Out of Conference Opponents
Manhattan (8-14)... Lost to VCU 73-56
Morgan State (12-11).... Lost to VCU 69-54
Arizona St.* (17-8).... Beat VCU 63-59
Pittsburgh* (17-7).... Lost to VCU 71-67
@ Memphis (18-6).... Beat VCU 62-47
Kennesaw State (19-7).... Lost to VCU 64-61
Vanderbilt (12-12).... Lost to VCU 70-65
@ Temple (14-11).... Beat VCU 83-73
Jacksonville (12-12).... Beat VCU 73-62
Howard (14-10).... Lost to VCU 70-60
Radford (16-10).... Lost to VCU 70-62
Northern Illinois (10-14).... Lost to VCU 90-63
Navy (14-11).... Lost to VCU 74-52


Conference Opponents
La Salle (11-13) (5-6 in A-10).... Lost to VCU 80-67
Duquesne (16-8) (6-5 in A-10).... Beat VCU 79-70
Davidson x2 (11-12) (4-7 in A-10).... Lost to VCU 89-72, Lost to VCU 61-59
Loyola-Chicago (8-15) (2-9 in A-10).... Lost to VCU 78-64
Dayton x2 (16-9) (8-4 in A-10).... Lost to VCU 63-62, Beat VCU 62-58
UMass (13-11) (4-8 in A-10).... Lost to VCU 83-55
Richmond x2 (12-13) (5-7 in A-10).... Lost to VCU 74-62
George Mason (13-12) (5-7 in A-10).... Lost to VCU 72-52
St. Bonaventure (13-12) (7-5 in A-10).... Beat VCU 61-58
Saint Louis x2 (16-8) (8-3 in A-10).... Lost to VCU 73-65
Rhode Island (8-15) (4-7 in A-10)
Fordham (19-5) (7-4 in A-10)
Saint Joseph's (12-12) (6-6 in A-10)
George Washington (12-12) (6-5 in A-10)

Non Conference Opponent Record: 183-133
Conference Opponent Record: 195-170 (77-83 in conference play)
Combined Overall Record: 378-303

 

[RowdyPkunk]

Thursday February 9th
Gardner-Webb @ Radford- 7 PM (ESPNU / ESPN+)
Stetson @ Jacksonville- 7 PM (ESPN+)
Kennesaw State @ Jacksonville State- 8:30 PM (ESPN+)
Arizona State @ Stanford- 10 PM (Fox Sports 1)

 

[RowdyPkunk]

If the A10 Tourney started today.... here's what the Seedings & Matchups would look like

Tuesday March 7th
Game 1: #12 Davidson vs #13 Rhode Island
Game 2: #10 George Mason vs #15 Loyola-Chicago
Game 3: #11 Richmond vs #14 UMass

Wednesday March 8th
Game 4: #8 Saint Joseph's vs #9 La Salle
Game 5: #5 St. Bonaventure vs Game 1 Winner
Game 6: #7 GW vs Game 2 Winner
Game 7: #6 Duquesne vs Game 3 Winner

Thursday March 9th
Game 8: #1 VCU vs Game 4 Winner
Game 9: #4 Fordham vs Game 5 Winner
Game 10: #2 Saint Louis vs Game 6 Winner
Game 11: #3 Dayton vs Game 7 Winner

Friday March 10th
No Games.... Practice / Press Conference Day

Saturday March 11th
Game 12: Game 8 Winner vs Game 9 Winner
Game 13: Game 10 Winner vs Game 11 Winner

Sunday March 12th
Championship: Game 12 Winner vs Game 13 Winner

 

[AlienAiden]

It is always a good day when the Spiders lose.

I was watching. That was a wild game. UR had a 5 point lead with a minute to go. They had a 3 point lead with under 20 seconds and fouled Bishop on a driving lay up giving him an And One to tie the game. Bad choices down the stretch of regulation for the Spiders.

I watched several games last night on three devices 🤣 Mason looked bad but Duquesne's D makes teams look bad when they are locked in. Bona could not handle La Salle's three headed guard play. Bona is a team that strays from the game plan time to time which results in losses. SBU's guards can fall into ISO play and it kills them. Fordham has a good team and Urgo is a fiery coach. They really get going in the 2nd half of games. UMass is a mess though. I see Fordham as a top 4 team when the regular season wraps up. I did not check in on Loyola and St Joe's. St Joe's won and is playing good ball lately.

 

[vcubballfan10]

I was watching. That was a wild game. UR had a 5 point lead with a minute to go. They had a 3 point lead with under 20 seconds and fouled Bishop on a driving lay up giving him an And One to tie the game. Bad choices down the stretch of regulation for the Spiders.

I watched several games last night on three devices 🤣 Mason looked bad but Duquesne's D makes teams look bad when they are locked in. Bona could not handle La Salle's three headed guard play. Bona is a team that strays from the game plan time to time which results in losses. SBU's guards can fall into ISO play and it kills them. Fordham has a good team and Urgo is a fiery coach. They really get going in the 2nd half of games. UMass is a mess though. I see Fordham as a top 4 team when the regular season wraps up. I did not check in on Loyola and St Joe's. St Joe's won and is playing good ball lately.

A10 tournament is wide open this season. Anyone can win it especially with the "rest day"

 

[enonram]

I was watching. That was a wild game. UR had a 5 point lead with a minute to go. They had a 3 point lead with under 20 seconds and fouled Bishop on a driving lay up giving him an And One to tie the game. Bad choices down the stretch of regulation for the Spiders.

I watched several games last night on three devices 🤣 Mason looked bad but Duquesne's D makes teams look bad when they are locked in. Bona could not handle La Salle's three headed guard play. Bona is a team that strays from the game plan time to time which results in losses. SBU's guards can fall into ISO play and it kills them. Fordham has a good team and Urgo is a fiery coach. They really get going in the 2nd half of games. UMass is a mess though. I see Fordham as a top 4 team when the regular season wraps up. I did not check in on Loyola and St Joe's. St Joe's won and is playing good ball lately.

and what was really interesting in the ur game was that at the end of regulation, gw's strategy was to foul ur on every possession. ur went to the ft line and MADE EVERY FREE THROW, 4-4 (something VCU is unable to do) and still lost the lead sending it to ot.

 

[Mercury]

I hope the A-10 is well attended with a good atmosphere. Just about every game will be a close one.

Would not be surprised of 2 of the top 4 didn't make it past their first game.

 

[rambunctiousrowdyram]

I hope the A-10 is well attended with a good atmosphere. Just about every game will be a close one.

Would not be surprised of 2 of the top 4 didn't make it past their first game.

I feel like attendance is gonna be down hard. Fans go with the expectations they have a chance. Right now every single team’s fans aren’t convinced they’ll get past their first game. Add in the rest day which means booking an extra day many will likely watch at home. Honestly you needed the tourney near one of the major schools to salvage things this year. Might see more fordham though.

 

[AlienAiden]

I feel like attendance is gonna be down hard. Fans go with the expectations they have a chance. Right now every single team’s fans aren’t convinced they’ll get past their first game.

I would think this year pretty much every team thinks they have a chance. Right?

 

[Mercury]

I feel like attendance is gonna be down hard. Fans go with the expectations they have a chance. Right now every single team’s fans aren’t convinced they’ll get past their first game. Add in the rest day which means booking an extra day many will likely watch at home. Honestly you needed the tourney near one of the major schools to salvage things this year. Might see more fordham though.

I do not expect good attendance before the break but Saturday and Sunday should have good turnouts.

 

[AlienAiden]

and what was really interesting in the ur game was that at the end of regulation, gw's strategy was to foul ur on every possession. ur went to the ft line and MADE EVERY FREE THROW, 4-4 (something VCU is unable to do) and still lost the lead sending it to ot.

UR is now 1-8 on the road.

 

[RowdyPkunk]

I feel like attendance is gonna be down hard. Fans go with the expectations they have a chance. Right now every single team’s fans aren’t convinced they’ll get past their first game. Add in the rest day which means booking an extra day many will likely watch at home. Honestly you needed the tourney near one of the major schools to salvage things this year. Might see more fordham though.

I do not expect good attendance before the break but Saturday and Sunday should have good turnouts.

I suspect you'll still see the usual big crowds from VCU, Dayton & prob SLU. As well as Fordham & St. Bonaventure due location & the fact they're both currently a Top 5 team in the A10 (based on conference record wise). However my guess is, outside of Bonnies fans and the VCU/Dayton/SLU fans that are taking the whole week off to go to Brooklyn.... I suspect Tuesday & Wednesday will be pretty bare. It'll prob be like the old pillow fight friday games at the CAA Tourney in Richmond back in the day where it was mostly VCU/GMU/Odu fans.

I'm curious to see how many UR, URI & Davidson fans make the trip. Especially having to be up there for a Tuesday game.

 

[rambunctiousrowdyram]

I do not expect good attendance before the break but Saturday and Sunday should have good turnouts.

I suspect you'll still see the usual big crowds from VCU, Dayton & prob SLU. As well as Fordham & St. Bonaventure due location & the fact they're both currently a Top 5 team in the A10 (based on conference record wise). However my guess is, outside of Bonnies fans and the VCU/Dayton/SLU fans that are taking the whole week off to go to Brooklyn.... I suspect Tuesday & Wednesday will be pretty bare. It'll prob be like the old pillow fight friday games at the CAA Tourney in Richmond back in the day where it was mostly VCU/GMU/Odu fans.

I'm curious to see how many UR, URI & Davidson fans make the trip. Especially having to be up there for a Tuesday game.

Y’all maybe right. I just think we’ll have down numbers from Dayton and VCU. SLU generally shows up when they are good but I feel like they will have fans who won’t travel too because of their inconsistency. Obviously this change still if a team gets hot. Fordham will show. SBU should but it’s a long trip to NYC and their fans are very unsure of their team as well. It’s just a long way for the major schools as far as fans traveling/booking extended stays to be completely uncertain of what team will show up.