Ace Baldwin is a major upgrade

MobileMunchies

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I just watched the first episode. Wow! Thanks for putting me on this. I gotta say something that is in my head. Nobody knows what each individual deals with and it is hard for me to know how some do. They have great heart to block out the struggle. I worry about the little stuff in my life and I have been blessed. It is hard for me to relate to some of the backgrounds some of these young men come from. They deal with so much from the time they wake up until they hit the court or in this case the field. This is why I prickle when I see or hear people criticize players publicly without knowing their situation. Had to get that off my chest.
I was innercity my entire life and not privileged like many I went to school with (St. Benedict's and Benedictine both gave my parents financial assistance to make it through having both sons go there), but not deeply entrenched in poverty either, as both my parents worked. But we were surrounded growing up west of the blvd at that time with immigrants from Vietnam, homes made into section 8 housing, and the devil's triangle during that time had some poor people living around there, no doubt. I hung out with a lot of them regardless of our backgrounds and race. This isn't taking advantage of such an opportunity but it is indeed a golden "yeah" moment, I hope people understand why some of us btch so much when we see a lack of understanding for what some of these players might be going, or have gone through.
 

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I was innercity my entire life and not privileged like many I went to school with (St. Benedict's and Benedictine both gave my parents financial assistance to make it through having both sons go there), but not deeply entrenched in poverty either, as both my parents worked. But we were surrounded growing up west of the blvd at that time with immigrants from Vietnam, homes made into section 8 housing, and the devil's triangle during that time had some poor people living around there, no doubt. I hung out with a lot of them regardless of our backgrounds and race. This isn't taking advantage of such an opportunity but it is indeed a golden "yeah" moment, I hope people understand why some of us btch so much when we see a lack of understanding for what some of these players might be going, or have gone through.

I know this gentleman with an intellectual disability who has worked every day at our local grocery store. Everyday this dude walks 3 miles each way to and from the grocery store to do his job pushing carts and unpacking delivery trucks. He did it in sunshine, rain or snow for about 5 years...then he had a stroke..he was out for several months before showing at work again paralyzed on his left side and started pushing carts again...getting up every day walking 3 miles to the same grocery store on time to work and doing his job without complaint (even with half his face and limbs only semi functional). He has been doing it in that condition for the last 8 years.

After witnessing him grind out his life and keep going, I believe that all of us healthy people(fully working arms , legs and a fully functioning brain) have nothing to complain about..no excuses..just go and make life work for you regardless of the situation. Find a way.
 

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Pete a friend of mine (guy who recruited Ace for football there) is good friends and an assistance coach. The HC is uber rich and very influential in the HS football scene.

Some dont approve of St. Francis because of how they recruit all over the Country (mainly Baltimore and Mid Atlantic) and the players are nearly college ready. However, they do have pull with the colleges, which is how the HC was able to garner an Asst job with Michigan before deciding to return to St. Francis.

As I posted earlier Ace was recruited there for football and would have most likely been a highly rated football recruit had he not been so successful his freshman year in Basketball.
Just to be clear, the uber rich football coach was not at St. Frances Ace's freshman year. But yes, who can look at Ace's toughness, athleticism and determination and not know he would make it in any sport he chose. BTW all the school in the Baltimore Catholic League recruit. St. Frances just did such a good job of it and regionally not just locally like most of the schools that the other schools in the league would no longer play them. The football coach had been at Gilman before and did pretty much the same thing. There were more top 100 football recruits at St. Frances the past couple of years (pre-covid) than any other high school in the country, but they've had trouble getting games.
 

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At the close of the regular season, Ace is tied for 2nd in the A-10 for total assists with Dayton’s Jalen Crutcher (102), 2nd in total steals (50), steals per game (2.17), steals per 40 minutes (3.02) and steal/personal foul ratio (1.14:1), 3rd in assists per 40 minutes (6.2), T-6th in assists/turnover ratio (1.89:1), 8th in assists per game (4.4) and 8th in steals/turnover ratio (0.93:1).

He’s been a real Ace for us (pun intended) as a true freshman starting point guard for VCU.

Pretty excited to see how he pans out for VCU. He’s already pretty darn good at this stage of his career.
At the end he will have been the best by a long shot. Book it. Never have in my 40 years of VCUBB seen a freshmen PG as good as this kid. The A10 will be wanting him to graduate as soon as possible.
 

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At the end he will have been the best by a long shot. Book it. Never have in my 40 years of VCUBB seen a freshmen PG as good as this kid. The A10 will be wanting him to graduate as soon as possible.
Eric Maynor, Ed Sherod, Rolando Lamb, Briante Weber, Joey Rodriguez etc. all probably have something to say about that , but Ace is well on his way to being one of the best we’ve had at the position and will probably/hopefully be in the same sentence with those guys.

I haven’t seen the older PGs, but Maynor was a top 20 NBA draft pick and is our D1 points and assists leader at VCU, I know from history that Ed Sherod got drafted and played a couple of years in the NBA, Briante Weber is #2 all-time when it comes to steals in NCAA history and played in the NBA as well.

If Ace is best at the position against those kinds of resumes, we have some VERY exciting years ahead of us indeed.
 

districtballer

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I was curious and looked up how Ace’s freshman season measured up to other notable VCU PGs’ freshman campaigns. It’s not really apples to apples since Ace stepped into a situation where he was able to start from Day 1, but that also speaks to his ability. Ace’s freshman season isn’t over yet and hopeful he still has several more games to rack up his stats. He stacks up favorably with some of our best PGs to come through here at this point of their careers.

Edmund Sherod:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%TRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
1977-78VCUInd29968122258.4735587.63268835658546299

Rolando Lamb:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%TRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
1981-82VCUSun Belt282880668151.4503954.722551255097778175

Darius Theus:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%ORBDRBTRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
2009-10VCUCAA3514173580.4382954.537626.2311828.64316193539401354394

JeQuan Lewis:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%ORBDRBTRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
2013-14VCUA-1035056364151.4244084.4762467.3585671.789123446693806281208

Joey Rodriguez:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%ORBDRBTRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
2007-08VCUCAA321878947146.3222467.3582379.2914759.797177592794815855164

Briante Weber:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%ORBDRBTRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
2011-12VCUCAA36467560145.41451109.468936.2504864.7502779106597784671177

Ace Baldwin:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%ORBDRBTRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
2020-21VCUA-10232366253144.36842101.4161143.2563544.7952255771025015444152

Lamar Taylor:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%ORBDRBTRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
1997-98VCUCAA201860662202.30742118.3562084.2382842.66755893127957172


Eric Maynor:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%ORBDRBTRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
2005-06VCUCAA29445549114.4304699.465315.2003441.82983038652204840135
 

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I was curious and looked up how Ace’s freshman season measured up to other notable VCU PGs’ freshman campaigns. It’s not really apples to apples since Ace stepped into a situation where he was able to start from Day 1, but that also speaks to his ability. Ace’s freshman season isn’t over yet and hopeful he still has several more games to rack up his stats. He stacks up favorably with some of our best PGs to come through here at this point of their careers.

Edmund Sherod:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%TRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
1977-78VCUInd29968122258.4735587.63268835658546299

Rolando Lamb:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%TRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
1981-82VCUSun Belt282880668151.4503954.722551255097778175

Darius Theus:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%ORBDRBTRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
2009-10VCUCAA3514173580.4382954.537626.2311828.64316193539401354394

JeQuan Lewis:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%ORBDRBTRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
2013-14VCUA-1035056364151.4244084.4762467.3585671.789123446693806281208

Joey Rodriguez:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%ORBDRBTRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
2007-08VCUCAA321878947146.3222467.3582379.2914759.797177592794815855164

Briante Weber:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%ORBDRBTRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
2011-12VCUCAA36467560145.41451109.468936.2504864.7502779106597784671177

Ace Baldwin:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%ORBDRBTRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
2020-21VCUA-10232366253144.36842101.4161143.2563544.7952255771025015444152

Lamar Taylor:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%ORBDRBTRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
1997-98VCUCAA201860662202.30742118.3562084.2382842.66755893127957172


Eric Maynor:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%ORBDRBTRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
2005-06VCUCAA29445549114.4304699.465315.2003441.82983038652204840135
JeQuan had one heck of a freshman year when you look at the production relative to mins played. Underrated!!!
 

Half-baked Mcbride

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I was curious and looked up how Ace’s freshman season measured up to other notable VCU PGs’ freshman campaigns. It’s not really apples to apples since Ace stepped into a situation where he was able to start from Day 1, but that also speaks to his ability. Ace’s freshman season isn’t over yet and hopeful he still has several more games to rack up his stats. He stacks up favorably with some of our best PGs to come through here at this point of their careers.

Edmund Sherod:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%TRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
1977-78VCUInd29968122258.4735587.63268835658546299

Rolando Lamb:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%TRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
1981-82VCUSun Belt282880668151.4503954.722551255097778175

Darius Theus:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%ORBDRBTRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
2009-10VCUCAA3514173580.4382954.537626.2311828.64316193539401354394

JeQuan Lewis:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%ORBDRBTRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
2013-14VCUA-1035056364151.4244084.4762467.3585671.789123446693806281208

Joey Rodriguez:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%ORBDRBTRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
2007-08VCUCAA321878947146.3222467.3582379.2914759.797177592794815855164

Briante Weber:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%ORBDRBTRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
2011-12VCUCAA36467560145.41451109.468936.2504864.7502779106597784671177

Ace Baldwin:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%ORBDRBTRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
2020-21VCUA-10232366253144.36842101.4161143.2563544.7952255771025015444152

Lamar Taylor:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%ORBDRBTRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
1997-98VCUCAA201860662202.30742118.3562084.2382842.66755893127957172


Eric Maynor:
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%ORBDRBTRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
2005-06VCUCAA29445549114.4304699.465315.2003441.82983038652204840135
Imagine what Ace's overall numbers would be if he had 5-8 more games like most everyone else on that list...Kids havin' a HELLUVA freshman year. Title of this thread is apt....major upgrade!!
 

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Imagine what Ace's overall numbers would be if he had 5-8 more games like most everyone else on that list...Kids havin' a HELLUVA freshman year. Title of this thread is apt....major upgrade!!
Exactly, the fact this has been an abbreviated season makes Ace's numbers all the more impressive. If this had been a full-length season he easily could've given Lamb a run for his money stats-wise.
 
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Just to be clear, the uber rich football coach was not at St. Frances Ace's freshman year. But yes, who can look at Ace's toughness, athleticism and determination and not know he would make it in any sport he chose. BTW all the school in the Baltimore Catholic League recruit. St. Frances just did such a good job of it and regionally not just locally like most of the schools that the other schools in the league would no longer play them. The football coach had been at Gilman before and did pretty much the same thing. There were more top 100 football recruits at St. Frances the past couple of years (pre-covid) than any other high school in the country, but they've had trouble getting games.
No, the HC he wasn't but his reach was there. The dude is uber rich and he does wtf ever he wants at that place. Fwiw, my buddy was there.

No one recruits like St. Frances and none of the others has a multi millionaire bank rolling his hobby (high school football).

As to Gilman a good number of their staff (including my buddy) slid over to St. Francis. By guys son and another friends son both played at Gilman with his son getting signed with Northwestern. Gilman was the program and St. Francis took it to another level with the $$$.
 
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Probably one of our most underrated players in my 40 years of watching VCU BB.
He sorta gets lost in all conversations about great VCU PG's. But I believe he belongs in that conversation. Not the best mind you, but certainly up there.
I’ll say this about the best.....i can’t imagine any VCU player had a better last game than JeQuan.
 

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I’ll say this about the best.....i can’t imagine any VCU player had a better last game than JeQuan.
I was there! We didn't have a lead beyond maybe 6-8 minutes into the game but never quit and never stopped battling, especially The General. We threatened to cut it to a one score game a couple times there in the second half, so close but yet so far. Was one heck of a game despite the L.