Ace Baldwin is a major upgrade

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You make a good point. Our players have to consider if they return they run the risk of a devastating injury before they’ve had a chance to earn a nickel playing professionally. Not sure how NIL affects their calculation. They are having to navigate a very different landscape than their predecessors due to NIL.
I think it helps mitigate that somewhat. If you are talking about a future NBA player then we are not going to be able to get them money anywhere close to that, but maybe some could make something comporable to what they would end up with overseas for a season. It is definitely different and we haven't seen how this will play out nationally much less with the limited sample of our own guys. I don't know many details about Ward's situation last season and don't need to, but I feel like it could have been short-sighted sacrificing potential future earnings for money right now. That could have been bad advice or it could have just been a situation where he needed the money right now and would have to deal with the rest later. Different guys are in different positions financially. Coach Smart mentioned back in the day that Troy Daniels was able to hang around the G League for a little while making far less money than he could overseas because his family was doing alright financially and he didn't have to worry about helping them out. Right before he was getting ready to throw in the towel and head overseas to play for 400K a season he started getting those 10-day NBA contracts which eventually led to a 3-year $10 million deal. If he would have gotten hurt in the G League and it was career ending then he never makes more than 30 grand a year playing basketball. It can be a mistake to wait or it can be a mistake to jump at the first thing that comes along. You never really know how it's going to play out. Just have to hope that you are getting the best advice and make the best decision you can.
 
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I think it helps mitigate that somewhat. If you are talking about a future NBA player then we are not going to be able to get them money anywhere close to that, but maybe some could make something comporable to what they would end up with overseas for a season. It is definitely different and we haven't seen how this will play out nationally much less with the limited sample of our own guys. I don't know many details about Ward's situation last season and don't need to, but I feel like it could have been short-sighted sacrificing potential future earnings for money right now. That could have been bad advice or it could have just been a situation where he needed the money right now and would have to deal with the rest later. Different guys are in different positions financially. Coach Smart mentioned back in the day that Troy Daniels was able to hang around the G League for a little while making far less money than he could overseas because his family was doing alright financially and he didn't have to worry about helping them out. Right before he was getting ready to throw in the towel and head overseas to play for 400K a season he started getting those 10-day NBA contracts which eventually led to a 3-year $10 million deal. If he would have gotten hurt in the G League and it was career ending then he never makes more than 30 grand a year playing basketball. It can be a mistake to wait or it can be a mistake to jump at the first thing that comes along. You never really know how it's going to play out. Just have to hope that you are getting the best advice and make the best decision you can.
The rumor was that Timme at Gonzaga stayed for $1MM in NIL money vs less to play in Europe and uncertainty at the NBA level. That's rumor though, who knows?
 

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The rumor was that Timme at Gonzaga stayed for $1MM in NIL money vs less to play in Europe and uncertainty at the NBA level. That's rumor though, who knows?
I've been wondering about Gonzaga and NIL. Spokane isn't an overly wealthy community. I don't know if they have some really rich supporters or just overwhelming support in the community to keep players on board with NIL now.
 

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I've been wondering about Gonzaga and NIL. Spokane isn't an overly wealthy community. I don't know if they have some really rich supporters or just overwhelming support in the community to keep players on board with NIL now.
Both. Gonzaga basketball is a national brand and they are not strapped for NIL cash at all.
 

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I noticed a couple commercials (cell phones maybe) during the games yesterday and today that included two Kentucky players. If true I wonder what the NIL is for a national commercial?
 

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I noticed a couple commercials (cell phones maybe) during the games yesterday and today that included two Kentucky players. If true I wonder what the NIL is for a national commercial?

The AT&T commercials are (in my cynical opinion) moneys well spent as they act as plausible deniability for the vast sums paid to their players...

I have yet to see ANY school publicly release any real hard numbers for NIL...Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I've just seen unsubstantiated numbers via rumors/insiders/et al
 

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Darrell Green and the A10's own Josh Oduro were in a FDA commercial reminding us all of the importance of proper sunscreen use.

 

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Darrell Green and the A10's own Josh Oduro were in a FDA commercial reminding us all of the importance of proper sunscreen use.

That a $100K NIL deal there.
 

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The AT&T commercials are (in my cynical opinion) moneys well spent as they act as plausible deniability for the vast sums paid to their players...

I have yet to see ANY school publicly release any real hard numbers for NIL...Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I've just seen unsubstantiated numbers via rumors/insiders/et al
That's because "the schools are not involved."

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Maryland’s starting PG has one more year of eligibility. You’ve concocted this in your head with no facts but a rumor posted on a message board from a guy who read a rumor somewhere else.

Get a grip man

All I said was you need to watch Maryland.

All the statements I made regarding Marylands connections to Ace and Maryland's attitude toward their recruitment can be supported by
Articles or interviews.


Again read Colby's article about Lamothe per May '21




"Maryland was involved with a former St. Frances standout Ace Baldwin, who just finished his freshman season at VCU having a standout season averaging 6.7 points, 4.4 assists and 3.2 rebounds in 29.9 minutes per game as the starter.

Many felt that Baldwin should’ve been wearing a Maryland jersey this season and had they not have waited so long to get involved, it would’ve been a safe bet that Baldwin would’ve committed.
Lamothe is likely to stay in the top 40 of his class as time progresses. Although Ranson has had a relationship with Lamothe since he was a child, extending an offer and making it official means more to prospects, especially ones from the Maryland and D.C. area. If Maryland wants to start keeping the talent at home, getting involved early and staying consistent will be key. Lamothe is the sort of prospect that should be prioritized."
 

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You want more proof that Maryland Lamothe is tight with Ace...watch this interview.

That's your evidence? Holy poop.
 

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That's your evidence? Holy poop.
Look to the post above that one..the article..the interview below..to say Baldwin doesn't have any connections to Maryland is wrong..4 players on the Terrapin roster were teammates with Ace at SFA or In AAU..

I am not saying Ace is leaving..but there is an ample amount of evidence to believe Maryland could be a legitimate thread.

 
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