Basketball fandom or mental illness?: A thread

[Ramaholic]

Let me see if

concerned?
That is like saying you’re “concerned “ with your 12 old‘s bad math grade so you beat him with a broom handle and put him out on the street

that bunch was carrying pitch forks

I viewed it as accountability. We still aren't out of the woods. But i think it is prudent to respect the performances that is currently happening. It was a heated debate bw the 2 sides and fairly evenly split. I think the consensus was that MR seat should be warm this year if he fails to make the tournament and pretty hot if he misses next year making it 2 out of 7 years. The pitchfork stuff happened when reasonable people defended MR performance and then some on the two sides fought relentlessly to make the other person share there view point. I think a lot of people have agreed to disagree on how they view things and see how things play out by the end of the year.

 

[Mistachill]

Hey, this topic keeps going without me contributing. Who'd a thunk it?

 

[HBK]

I viewed it as accountability. We still aren't out of the woods. But i think it is prudent to respect the performances that is currently happening. It was a heated debate bw the 2 sides and fairly evenly split. I think the consensus was that MR seat should be warm this year if he fails to make the tournament and pretty hot if he misses next year making it 2 out of 7 years. The pitchfork stuff happened when reasonable people defended MR performance and then some on the two sides fought relentlessly to make the other person share there view point. I think a lot of people have agreed to disagree on how they view things and see how things play out by the end of the year.

I think a lot depends on expectations everyone may have for a given year. Mike's first year went as I expected. I never thought we'd be a contender in the first year, with the cupboard as bare as it was. I never understood those fans who thought we'd just keep on trucking with a 3rd coach in 4 seasons. My expectation has been to make the NCAAs every year since then, but things may happen in the preseason that cause me to alter my expectations. Ace's injury in May 2021 tempered my expectations for last season. I knew we'd struggle for two reasons: freshman PG and because Mike said we'd struggle early until Ace came back. That said, we ended up winning 19 of our last 25 games and going to the NIT. I don't consider that a bad year, within the context of Ace's injury and how we started. Others consider going to the NIT a bad year. That's a reasonable disagreement. Would I want to put together a string of NIT seasons? Heck no!!! Once in a while is fine for me. So, given my expectations for each season, given where we are and what we have as the season starts, I've only seen one bad year in the last four, and that was the collapse of 2020. Otherwise, I'm good with where we are this year and the state of the program on the court. That doesn't mean it is perfect and that we shouldn't keep trying to improve. We certainly have lots of room for improvement. Our recruiting has been highly ranked, for what that's worth. Kids seem to be getting better and developing as players. Until I see that change, then I like the path we're on right now.

 

[HBK]

Hey, this topic keeps going without me contributing. Who'd a thunk it?

I'm keeping it going on your behalf!!

 

[rambunctiousrowdyram]

I viewed it as accountability. We still aren't out of the woods. But i think it is prudent to respect the performances that is currently happening. It was a heated debate bw the 2 sides and fairly evenly split. I think the consensus was that MR seat should be warm this year if he fails to make the tournament and pretty hot if he misses next year making it 2 out of 7 years. The pitchfork stuff happened when reasonable people defended MR performance and then some on the two sides fought relentlessly to make the other person share there view point. I think a lot of people have agreed to disagree on how they view things and see how things play out by the end of the year.

Bingo.

 

[VCU85]

I went back and watched the replay of the 2013 games vs Tech and Butler..I get it..everybody would love to get that back..but then I looked at the sidelines..Shaka Smart, Will Wade and Mike Rhoades...

I think the may be arguably be the best staff in VCU history. The sum is greater than the individual parts.

Yep, the bandleader/ motivational guy, and 2 pretty good X's and O's guys. Shaka doesn't get to the final 4 without those 2, and they don't get to the final 4 without Shaka pushing the kids (in my opinion).

 

[Mr X]

Yep, the bandleader/ motivational guy, and 2 pretty good X's and O's guys. Shaka doesn't get to the final 4 without those 2, and they don't get to the final 4 without Shaka pushing the kids (in my opinion).

The good part of the tree.

 

[Ululating Daddy]

Yep, the bandleader/ motivational guy, and 2 pretty good X's and O's guys. Shaka doesn't get to the final 4 without those 2, and they don't get to the final 4 without Shaka pushing the kids (in my opinion).

Shaka's vision, Frank's analytics, Mike's toughness - pretty formidable combination.

 

[VCU Finance 2008]

I think a lot depends on expectations everyone may have for a given year. Mike's first year went as I expected. I never thought we'd be a contender in the first year, with the cupboard as bare as it was. I never understood those fans who thought we'd just keep on trucking with a 3rd coach in 4 seasons. My expectation has been to make the NCAAs every year since then, but things may happen in the preseason that cause me to alter my expectations. Ace's injury in May 2021 tempered my expectations for last season. I knew we'd struggle for two reasons: freshman PG and because Mike said we'd struggle early until Ace came back. That said, we ended up winning 19 of our last 25 games and going to the NIT. I don't consider that a bad year, within the context of Ace's injury and how we started. Others consider going to the NIT a bad year. That's a reasonable disagreement. Would I want to put together a string of NIT seasons? Heck no!!! Once in a while is fine for me. So, given my expectations for each season, given where we are and what we have as the season starts, I've only seen one bad year in the last four, and that was the collapse of 2020. Otherwise, I'm good with where we are this year and the state of the program on the court. That doesn't mean it is perfect and that we shouldn't keep trying to improve. We certainly have lots of room for improvement. Our recruiting has been highly ranked, for what that's worth. Kids seem to be getting better and developing as players. Until I see that change, then I like the path we're on right now.

Drop it @Mistachill 😒

 

[BGDragoon80]

Sometimes you have to read between the lines. The post basically suggests waiting it out to make a change simply to not have regular turnover. Fact is 3 years of missed NCAAs if that were to happen would actually be very damaging not just image but financially for all programs. Sometimes if you see an issue you have make that change to minimize damage. Now obviously we’re not there right now. However, we have become irrelevant at the national level. Again IF this season doesn’t end up successful in what is a down year for the A10 then you really have to sit down and evaluate things. Quite simply we’re doing what you would expect this year when Dayton is falling apart and really SLU is the only slightly consistent team. We’re rising to the top. The question is where things will end season wise. That’s when we can properly evaluate Rhoades then. Unless we absolutely run the table for an at large/or finish as top seed and win the A10 tourney or we completely crumble. Then we can start evaluating a bit early.

Instead of reading between lines and assuming what someone wrote, simply ask for clarification.

 

[Mistachill]

Drop it @Mistachill 😒

Dang you figured me out. My silence is a secret reverse psychology strategy. My plan for evil is working to perfection. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha (sinister laugh while rubbing my hands together)!

 

[duncanlamb]

11 years ago. Thoughtful Thursday with then Assistant coach Mike Rhoades.

The first ever recorded references to "fighting the game", "making the game easier" and 'playing with clear head"..all in relation to his relationship with Joey Rodriguez.

 

[Mistachill]

11 years ago. Thoughtful Thursday with then Assistant coach Mike Rhoades.

The first ever recorded references to "fighting the game", "making the game easier" and 'playing with clear head"..all in relation to his relationship with Joey Rodriguez.

Did he drop a "fight like crazy" reference?

 

[duncanlamb]

Did he drop a "fight like crazy" reference?

No.

Bu I remember listening to this interview 2 weeks after it aired on YouTube and thinking to myself in the shower before bed.."VCU's contingency plan is to hand this guy the keys to the car if Shaka leaves...".

 

[VCU Finance 2008]

Has anybody want been listening to the podcast episodes Coach Smart did with Doug Gottlieb? Pretty interesting stuff in there. Hadn't seen it discussed anywhere else on here but I haven't been keeping up with a lot of the threads.