Bones Hyland - NBA Thread

[duncanlamb]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1536903482048774145

 

[LQuarles]

If Bones gets traded, it's almost certainly going to lead to more minutes and opportunity for him. You have to look at things in terms of value, and Bones has pretty great value at the moment. He's on a rookie contract and already an above average NBA player. If he NEVER improved, he'd still be on a good contract. Obviously, as a young rookie , it is extremely likely that he improves, potentially a large amount.

Either he doesn't get traded, in which case he's almost certainly going to be the first option off the bench, or he gets traded. No team is going to trade for him just to play him 12 minutes a game, his value is too high right now, If he gets traded, it's probably going to be to a non-playoff team that is taking a bet that he could be the #2 or #3 option with the potential to be #1.

Ain't no way he's getting traded.

 

[AlienAiden]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1536939614224584704

 

[WillWeaverRVA]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1536939614224584704

When he wants that tressi…

 

[share the ball]

Ain't no way he's getting traded.

spot on

needle is definitely pointed skyward but even beyond that his rookie contract is SOOOOOO favorable to Nuggets - they would have to pay 10+ million to get a free agent anywhere close to his offensive skills and scoring ability and this Nuggets owner was so cheap he lost one of the best GMs to T-Wolves because he wouldn't pay market value for Connelly. (now dumping contracts with Green and maybe Morris or Barton)

Nuggets going to ride Bones through that rookie deal and decide in year 3 or 4 to extend etc based upon where he is in his development at that time

if he develops on D than we are looking at one of those 10+ year careers and who knows what numbers

go Bones

 

[RowdyPkunk]

Ain't no way he's getting traded.

spot on

needle is definitely pointed skyward but even beyond that his rookie contract is SOOOOOO favorable to Nuggets - they would have to pay 10+ million to get a free agent anywhere close to his offensive skills and scoring ability and this Nuggets owner was so cheap he lost one of the best GMs to T-Wolves because he wouldn't pay market value for Connelly. (now dumping contracts with Green and maybe Morris or Barton)

Nuggets going to ride Bones through that rookie deal and decide in year 3 or 4 to extend etc based upon where he is in his development at that time

if he develops on D than we are looking at one of those 10+ year careers and who knows what numbers

go Bones

I hope he's not gonna get traded.... however isn't he only on a 2 year rookie deal?

If so, then if he's not gonna be possible trade bait... then the Nuggets need to re-up him before the trade deadline during the regular season to eliminate that option.

If they don't extend him & don't trade him... they run the risk of losing him for nothing. Now Idk what his overall trade value is at the moment... but I know someone will want him in FA if he gets there.

 

[VCU Heel]

I hope he's not gonna get traded.... however isn't he only on a 2 year rookie deal?

If so, then if he's not gonna be possible trade bait... then the Nuggets need to re-up him before the trade deadline during the regular season to eliminate that option.

If they don't extend him & don't trade him... they run the risk of losing him for nothing. Now Idk what his overall trade value is at the moment... but I know someone will want him in FA if he gets there.

The rookie contract guarantees the player at least two years. The team has the option to pick the player back up for years 3 and 4 with no free agency. Unless something dramatic happens, Bones will almost certainly get years 3 and 4 of his rookie contract.

Here is Bones’ contract info:

Nah'Shon Hyland

Nah'Shon Hyland contract and salary cap details, contract breakdowns, dead money, and news.

www.spotrac.com

After year 4, the player is a restricted free agent for one year, so the team has the option to match any other offers the player gets from other teams for one year. If the team really wants to keep the player, then they’ll generally sign him to a longer term (5 year) deal after year 4.

For example, Trae Young earned about $26 million in his first 4 years in Atlanta with his rookie contract. That’s a lot more than Bones would make from his rookie contract because Trae was the 5th pick. After year 4, the Hawks signed him to a max deal of $212 million over 5 years (all guaranteed money).

 

[mrgeode]

Also potentially of note down the road - Denver is a relatively small market team, most of which offer more money/more guarantees to guys they want to keep when it comes time to negotiate new contracts. Their cap situation is going to get hairy soon with Jokic, Murray, and MPJ all bringing in big time salaries, so Bones may possibly end up going elsewhere after another few seasons since Denver may not have enough cap space left to give him the best deal, but it's exceedingly unlikely he leaves before then (if then), and he may be signed in Denver for quite a while.

 

[VCU Heel]

Also potentially of note down the road - Denver is a relatively small market team, most of which offer more money/more guarantees to guys they want to keep when it comes time to negotiate new contracts. Their cap situation is going to get hairy soon with Jokic, Murray, and MPJ all bringing in big time salaries, so Bones may possibly end up going elsewhere after another few seasons since Denver may not have enough cap space left to give him the best deal, but it's exceedingly unlikely he leaves before then (if then), and he may be signed in Denver for quite a while.

If Bones were to become a max contract kind of guy, then it will be impossible for him to sign with Denver if they’ve given max contracts to Jokic, Murray, and MPJ and want to keep those 3. If that were the case, then they’d be smart to trade him after year 3 or during year 4 because they would be able to get something good for him instead of losing him to free agency and getting nothing in return. But that’s a huge if. Bones has a long ways to go to get that kind of contract.

 

[AlienAiden]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1537529905700868097

 

[MobileMunchies]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1537819074239029251

 

[PRock]

If Bones were to become a max contract kind of guy, then it will be impossible for him to sign with Denver if they’ve given max contracts to Jokic, Murray, and MPJ and want to keep those 3. If that were the case, then they’d be smart to trade him after year 3 or during year 4 because they would be able to get something good for him instead of losing him to free agency and getting nothing in return. But that’s a huge if. Bones has a long ways to go to get that kind of contract.

FWIW- Bones’ production is similar in nature to Bradly Beal’s rookie season stat wise. Beal obviously got more minutes as the third overall pick, so his stats are a little better, but the per 48s favor Bones. Beal’s development from mainly a 3pt shooter with some wiggle, to a reliable three level scorer and solid defender, provides a good model for Bones towards developing into a Max contract candidate.

 

[mrgeode]

FWIW- Bones’ production is similar in nature to Bradly Beal’s rookie season stat wise. Beal obviously got more minutes as the third overall pick, so his stats are a little better, but the per 48s favor Bones. Beal’s development from mainly a 3pt shooter with some wiggle, to a reliable three level scorer and solid defender, provides a good model for Bones towards developing into a Max contract candidate.

NGL, Bones profiles as a future All Star. He has a ways to go to get there, but now that he's a season in I don't feel like I'm jinxing him to say it out loud.

 

[MobileMunchies]

Looks who they chose for this tweet..,. LOL, Bones ain't going nowhere, Denver loves Bones.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1538354323284930561

 

[rammad90]

Ain't no way he's getting traded.

This!