Mo Alie-Cox and VCU Football

Feb 14, 2011
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IF VCU ever revisited football. They need to look at ODU for not what to do. Monday morning QB-ing; there isn't anything I can think of that their Admin did to set them up for long term success. There are many programs out there outside of the P-5 that are quite successful where football is actually funding other sports including basketball.
 
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rammad90

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The issue is that the P5's are pulling away and dissolving their association with the NCAA and thus other teams in the NCAA. They have already done this with the creation of their "Championship" playoff gig.
If basketball were only 11-12 games a season, you would see the same thing in basketball. In order to challenge the 30 game season, the P5's have grown their numbers in their conference and thereby limited their exposure to non-p5 teams as well as having P5 vs P5 OOC interconference challenge games.

P5 fans may love and relish this but I think it is destroying amateur college sports. Just like I feel the Olympics have been destroyed with the inclusion of professional athletes. Those specific events are no longer fun to watch IMO. I don't find it at all fun at all to watch an NBA all-star team take down the Indonesian national team with a score of something like 150-32.
I agree with the majority of your posts. However, I do not agree with regards to professional athletes in the Olympics. Prior to the inclusions of NBA players, other athletes were essentially Pro's in their sports, although many had no official professional leagues.

I do agree that it is not enjoyable to watch some lessor country get smashed by the US. However, even without the NBA guys that was happening. The only countries that are really hurt by our NBA guys would be only a handful. Fwiw, many of those countries had what amounted to professional playing basketball with grown men into their 30's representing their team. Of the truly competitive teams, only the US was sending amateurs typically between the ages of 19-23.

Again, I agree. However, if you wanted to remove the NBA guys in the olympics you'd also have to remove all pros, as well as put an age cap on it. However, that would be hypocritical as explained above.
 
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If VCU wanted football, it should have formed an independent squad in the early 70s during the 'outlaw' period when schools played basketball in a conference but were independent in football. If we'd had success as a 1A independent, we may have been able to make an interesting play for inclusion among the Eastern 8 which could have evolved in a more linear way into the Big East...we'll never know.

Bottom line: The power 5 are going to end up taking a path similar to the English Premier League. At some point, the power conferences will collude together with ESPN or Fox and break away from the NCAA all together in the name of more control and tv revenue consolidation. The NCAA will be as impotent as the Football League was in 1991 to stop it, and though the NCAA will file lawsuits, they'll have to decide whether they'd like to re-litigate NCAA v. Oklahoma Board of Regents, where the NCAA got trounced prior.
 

AlienAiden

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Liberty knocks off #12 and undefeated Coastal Carolina. Clearly the best FBS team in the commonwealth in 2020.
Actually, this is a perfect example of why football is a waste of time. Coastal Carolina was undefeated and people were mad because they were not in consideration for the national championship playoff. The best they could get by going undefeated was the Cure Bowl against Liberty.
 
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I'm 100% against football at VCU. Never wanted it, never will. I like college football. I have always cheered for the underdog (except for when VCU is the favorite) and Liberty is my fix for college football underdog fandom. They just had a phenomenal season. The only game they lost was when their best player had his worst game and it ended on a blocked field goal on the last play. Their redemption came when they won yesterday on a blocked field goal on the last play.
 

AlienAiden

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I'm 100% against football at VCU. Never wanted it, never will. I like college football. I have always cheered for the underdog (except for when VCU is the favorite) and Liberty is my fix for college football underdog fandom. They just had a phenomenal season. The only game they lost was when their best player had his worst game and it ended on a blocked field goal on the last play. Their redemption came when they won yesterday on a blocked field goal on the last play.
Oh, I am a VCU fan and a Mo Alie-Cox fan. That is what this thread is about. Who did Liberty lose to when their best player did not have a good game and it ended on a blocked field goal on the last play?

Never mind. I looked it up. They got beat by NC State who is rewarded by going to the Taxslayer Gator Bowl against 4-6 Kentucky.
 
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