The Official Beat the GooMoos (Again) in the Animal Thread

[mrgeode]

And...?

I would counter that Burgess, George and JPR took more of a pounding with their style of play than Bones who primarily operates on the perimeter at this stage of his career.

I just mean the 165lb guy isn't as strong as freakin' Jesse Pellot Rosa or Brad Burgess. It makes sense he might wear out more, which is what MR was talking about. He'll get stronger as he gets older and that should help with his defense when fatigued.

 

[Newboy]

Maybe we should worry about our offense more than our defense.

 

[Mistachill]

I just mean the 165lb guy isn't as strong as freakin' Jesse Pellot Rosa or Brad Burgess. It makes sense he might wear out more, which is what MR was talking about. He'll get stronger as he gets older and that should help with his defense when fatigued.

There are a ton of factors beyond weight and strength. Bone's current style of play should be way less taxing on the body then JPR or Brad or Nick. Heck, George was our second leading rebounder as a freshman. And if it's a wind issue, geez, an 18 year old as light as he is getting winded like what is being described is...interesting. He can't be much more frail or lacking in strength then Steph Curry as a freshman and he played 30+ minutes per game.

 

[theyaintwantit]

That is shocking. Or it could be a very convenient excuse to ride or die with the guy who has been with him almost his entire coaching career at Rice and VCU.

He did miss almost a year of basketball from the house fire before he came to VCU. Maybe he is still bettering his conditioning?

 

[PRock]

As with furniture, I guess they don't make freshman like they used to:

Freshman minutes
Nick George - 29 mpg
Brad Burgess - 29 mpg
BA Walker - 25+ mpg
J Rod - 25 mpg
JPR - 24 mpg

To be clear, not advocating one way or the other, just providing the full comment that MR made in his presser. I think one thing we can agree on with respect to Bones, is the nickname is accurate and he’ll benefit from an offseason diet and workout plan. Nick, Brad and JPR came in with the bodies of men....so not surprised with there ability to hang.

 

[PRock]

There are a ton of factors beyond weight and strength. Bone's current style of play should be way less taxing on the body then JPR or Brad or Nick. Heck, George was our second leading rebounder as a freshman. And if it's a wind issue, geez, an 18 year old as light as he is getting winded like what is being described is...interesting. He can't be much more frail or lacking in strength then Steph Curry as a freshman and he played 30+ minutes per game.

The point is that physical strength can often be plan B to relying on quicks alone in terms of defense. Sometimes a little body up or a subtle forearm to hold off a defender can make it more difficult on the ball handler—really, the best case is a mixture of the two from the outset. Also, consider that for most of the examples provided, there really was no other choice.

And the Curry example is a red herring, the only D he has ever been known for, is the D in Davidson.

 

[Mistachill]

The point is that physical strength can often be plan B to relying on quicks alone in terms of defense. Sometimes a little body up or a subtle forearm to hold off a defender can make it more difficult on the ball handler—really, the best case is a mixture of the two from the outset. Also, consider that for most of the examples provided, there really was no other choice.

And the Curry example is a red herring, the only D he has ever been known for, is the D in Davidson.

There are a ton of examples of skinny, not very strong freshman who played major minutes besides Curry.

 

[PRock]

There are a ton of examples of skinny, not very strong freshman who played major minutes besides Curry.

Dude, I am President of the play Bones 40 minutes fan club....i’ll take a few lapses on defense as long as they are outnumbered by net burner bombs and “oh my” dimes. Was just reporting the news.

 

[Ramdog]

Dude, I am President of the play Bones 40 minutes fan club....i’ll take a few lapses on defense as long as they are outnumbered by net burner bombs and “oh my” dimes. Was just reporting the news.

And throw McAllister in there and if he doesn’t get 5 rebounds he better have 5 fouls...need some attitude on the boards...the ball ain’t going to bounce to you...you need to go get it

 

[Mistachill]

Dude, I am President of the play Bones 40 minutes fan club....i’ll take a few lapses on defense as long as they are outnumbered by net burner bombs and “oh my” dimes. Was just reporting the news.

I know. Just having trouble with MR's explanation of why he can't more minutes. I assume it's true, just having trouble buying it.

 

[LQuarles]

I think Bones also started against the Bonnies. IMO that was our best first half of the season. We're still capable of doing that again if Bones starts.