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mrgeode

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And it’s why some small cities have converted to towns and become part of their surrounding county and some continue to try to do that now.
It's barely a glimmer of a faint possibility but I think it would be hilarious and good for both entities if Richmond merged with Henrico.
 
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It's ironic. The City of Richmond was growing and thriving when Henrico and Chesterfield were still mostly rural. They thrived as Richmond grew out to their borders and beyond and they became wealthy (at least more than the city now) suburbs. If not for the city of Richmond and mostly racist white flight to Henrico and Chesterfield, they would still be mostly rural, and to a great extent, mostly poor. But they owe the city nothing, right?

This has to be the craziest, most unfounded comments I have read in a long, long time. First of all, "white flight" from the city was not all about race as you suggest. There were more affordable housing opportunities in the counties years ago. And businesses/companies moved/located in the counties as those counties attracted those businesses/companies to the county. People then, and now, are going to historically live close to where they work. Both the Parham Road corridor and the Midlothian Turnpike corridor competed with the city for businesses/companies, which attracted people to move from the city. Hospitals followed and schools improved. The counties flat out provided people a better infrastructure, which was attractive to them. The counties also had a lower tax rate than the city, and continue to do so today.

Personally, I hate it when people always want to play the "race" card to justify why things happened. Changes happen for many reasons other than "race". :roll::roll::roll:
 

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This has to be the craziest, most unfounded comments I have read in a long, long time. First of all, "white flight" from the city was not all about race as you suggest. There were more affordable housing opportunities in the counties years ago. And businesses/companies moved/located in the counties as those counties attracted those businesses/companies to the county. People then, and now, are going to historically live close to where they work. Both the Parham Road corridor and the Midlothian Turnpike corridor competed with the city for businesses/companies, which attracted people to move from the city. Hospitals followed and schools improved. The counties flat out provided people a better infrastructure, which was attractive to them. The counties also had a lower tax rate than the city, and continue to do so today.

Personally, I hate it when people always want to play the "race" card to justify why things happened. Changes happen for many reasons other than "race". :roll::roll::roll:
Move out of deteriorating cities and it's racism; move in and it's gentrification...sigh.
 

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This has to be the craziest, most unfounded comments I have read in a long, long time. First of all, "white flight" from the city was not all about race as you suggest. There were more affordable housing opportunities in the counties years ago. And businesses/companies moved/located in the counties as those counties attracted those businesses/companies to the county. People then, and now, are going to historically live close to where they work. Both the Parham Road corridor and the Midlothian Turnpike corridor competed with the city for businesses/companies, which attracted people to move from the city. Hospitals followed and schools improved. The counties flat out provided people a better infrastructure, which was attractive to them. The counties also had a lower tax rate than the city, and continue to do so today.

Personally, I hate it when people always want to play the "race" card to justify why things happened. Changes happen for many reasons other than "race". :roll::roll::roll:
Ummm, that is not historically accurate. An example would be in the 1970s, when the City of Richmond was sued for attempting to annex parts of Henrico and Chesterfield, a racially divisive battle that ended up in federal court. You can look it all up. Back in the late 60s many left due to the impending ratification of the 14th Amendment. People can choose to use any justification they want for the movements of such things but it is hard to deny the reasons.
 

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Ummm, that is not historically accurate. An example would be in the 1970s, when the City of Richmond was sued for attempting to annex parts of Henrico and Chesterfield, a racially divisive battle that ended up in federal court. You can look it all up. Back in the late 60s many left due to the impending ratification of the 14th Amendment. People can choose to use any justification they want for the movements of such things but it is hard to deny the reasons.
Indeed. Race is exactly why Richmond is the way it is now, thanks to the city annexing affluent areas of Henrico and Chesterfield. There are still Henrico County neighborhood watch signs along portions of River Road in the city with date stamps from the late 1960s.
 

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Ummm, that is not historically accurate. An example would be in the 1970s, when the City of Richmond was sued for attempting to annex parts of Henrico and Chesterfield, a racially divisive battle that ended up in federal court. You can look it all up. Back in the late 60s many left due to the impending ratification of the 14th Amendment. People can choose to use any justification they want for the movements of such things but it is hard to deny the reasons.
The late 60s of what century?
 

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The late 60s of what century?


"Passed by Congress June 13, 1866, and ratified July 9, 1868, the 14th Amendment extended liberties and rights granted by the Bill of Rights to formerly enslaved people."
 

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It’s the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that he means to refer to and everything else he said was correct.
 

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Brown v. Board of Education in 1952 and the subsequent actions of the Eisenhower, Kennedy, and Johnson administrations was the real reason behind white flight.

To pretend that race wasn’t the biggest force behind what happened is ignorant at best and equally likely to be the result intentional disinformation.
 

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No they don’t tbh. People are moving to the counties to get away from the city craziness. If not the surrounding counties they would go elsewhere which would mean they wouldn’t be visiting Richmond at all. Whether the city wants to admit it or not it needs people coming into the city business wise. City people alone can’t sustain the businesses as we’ve seen over the last few years. City business owners admit it’s really hurting that less people are going into the city. The counties have long shown they can sustain themselves. Hanover schools are some of the best in the state/ country and is becoming a country for blossoming businesses as well just roped in things like the ABC headquarters. Chesterfield is prospering and constantly growing. Henrico has deep pockets and is showing it. Can’t simply say the counties owe us because Richmond was here. The counties have been progressing for years and were by no means struggling. People want to raise families outside the city or have a quieter life. They don’t owe the city for wanting that.

Also it’s not as though the counties abandoned the city. They tried to work with them and when they did the city wanted their money but didn’t want to give them any perks or value for city improvement. The counties are not a bank and the city leadership looked at them like one.
But there is a long, long history leading up to that, where Richmond became land locked, wealth was transferred to the counties. The City of Richmond and Counties of Henrico and Chesterfield (to a lesser extent, but not insignificant, Hanover, Goochland, Dinwiddie, PG, New Kent) may have all been better off with a larger regional government (authority with some teeth to it) to coordinate the growth and wellbeing of the whole metro area. IMHO the constant competition between them has not been good for any of them.
 
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