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I think this is a rumor. Bones was a talented freshman. Could the seniors have been the problem? I would not throw all the issues that season on Bones. Seems like a coaching issue to me.
I heard it from someone who works in the athletic department. I'm not saying Bones caused the problems that brought down that 2019 team, but I think he had a hand in it. I think a LOT of things went wrong that year -- injuries, egos, family members, etc.
 
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I think this is a rumor. Bones was a talented freshman. Could the seniors have been the problem? I would not throw all the issues that season on Bones. Seems like a coaching issue to me.
Agree. It's on the coaching staff to address and fix chemistry issues on a team. Glad I don't have to figure out how to do that, but then again, I'm not a coach. I would think many coaches have to address these issues, but that 2019-2020 team just never seemed fixed to me.
 
Denver could be the best run organization in the league. Only the Bucks have won more games the last 5 years, and have probably drafted better than anyone the last 10 years. They have built a contender exclusively from within without being a destination for free agents, which seems incredibly difficult today. Wasting a late first round pick is not really that big a deal, and they are probably a better team without him.

I have not really followed him in the league. He mentioned “communication problems”. I’m sure they let you know what they want, which is probably not a diva from the 7th or 8th guy off the bench. Play your role and cash the checks, seems simple. Playing for a title contender would seem to make it even easier.
I would agree with this except the guy who did all that left before the season started and is with the T-Wolves now, and wasting a first rounder is a bigger deal for for a small market franchise. Of course many/most picks outside the lottery don't work out, and many of those don't as well.

As for the second part I imagine it was a learning experience. Hopefully things work out with the Clips, cursed franchise though they are.
 
Denver could be the best run organization in the league. Only the Bucks have won more games the last 5 years, and have probably drafted better than anyone the last 10 years. They have built a contender exclusively from within without being a destination for free agents, which seems incredibly difficult today. Wasting a late first round pick is not really that big a deal, and they are probably a better team without him.

I have not really followed him in the league. He mentioned “communication problems”. I’m sure they let you know what they want, which is probably not a diva from the 7th or 8th guy off the bench. Play your role and cash the checks, seems simple. Playing for a title contender would seem to make it even easier.
I think that it’s hard to call an organization that has never won an NBA title or even made the Finals the best run organization in the league.
 
I think that it’s hard to call an organization that has never won an NBA title or even made the Finals the best run organization in the league.
Yeah. I followed them closely from the time Bones was drafted. I watched all of their games too. Their front office is weak. VCU has a better practice facility. The won the lottery by getting Jokic. I like Gordon too. It just did not work out. Bones did get some good experience there though.
 
Yeah. I followed them closely from the time Bones was drafted. I watched all of their games too. Their front office is weak. VCU has a better practice facility. The won the lottery by getting Jokic. I like Gordon too. It just did not work out. Bones did get some good experience there though.
Stan is cheap, cheap, cheap. I probably should've only typed it once because three times implies excess
 
I think that it’s hard to call an organization that has never won an NBA title or even made the Finals the best run organization in the league.
Not talking historically, just recently.

The NBA is dominated by same couple of players and/or the same couple of franchises for 10 or 15 years. Unless you have one of those guys, or are in LA, Miami etc and players just want to be there, you are on the outside looking in. The Spurs were kind of unique. Denver can't just go out and sign a Lebron or Kawhi with All Star sidekicks or their flunkies who will take a pay cut to carry their suitcases. What Denver has been doing recently is impressive.
 
Not talking historically, just recently.

The NBA is dominated by same couple of players and/or the same couple of franchises for 10 or 15 years. Unless you have one of those guys, or are in LA, Miami etc and players just want to be there, you are on the outside looking in. The Spurs were kind of unique. Denver can't just go out and sign a Lebron or Kawhi with All Star sidekicks or their flunkies who will take a pay cut to carry their suitcases. What Denver has been doing recently is impressive.
It’s impressive, but I think they need to win a couple titles to get the best run franchise in the NBA title. A least one, but maybe a couple.

Golden State and Milwaukee have both been run very well. Toronto and Miami have been too.
 
I would agree with this except the guy who did all that left before the season started and is with the T-Wolves now, and wasting a first rounder is a bigger deal for for a small market franchise. Of course many/most picks outside the lottery don't work out, and many of those don't as well.

As for the second part I imagine it was a learning experience. Hopefully things work out with the Clips, cursed franchise though they are.
Kawhi is turning 32 and just had another knee. Westbrook is done. They will blow that team up soon.
 
I would just like to see Bones stop flexing after every shot or jawing with the opposing team's bench and coaches. Just play the game and get better.
 
The Spurs were kind of unique.
Crazy, isn’t it?

San Antonio has basically averaged one poor season every 15 years or so. They‘ve been lucky enough to have Robinson, Duncan, and now this absolute unicorn of a kid waiting for them each time they are down for a minute.

Not to mention landing Sean Elliott with the third pick in one of their other few down years. He was instrumental to their culture and helped kick off their reign with their first title in 1999.

Pops might just coach until he’s 95.
 
Bones should still be at Denver giving it his all to help a team win a championship. Feel like he sabotaged what really was still a good opportunity, by not recognizing his role. Could have dealt with his future with the organization in the offseason.
Bones is no longer in Denver because management determined he was not the player they needed to help them in the playoffs. Malone proceeded to revamp his substitution pattern that reduced Bone's ability to contribute as much as he had been. Did he screw up by leaving the bench and going back to the locker room...yeah...but Denver screwed Bones and themselves by not handling the situation well themselves and its their incompetence that created an unnecessary negative appearance of Bones that resulting in them not getting squat for him. Bones may be a bit immature and zealous at times, but he is far from being a problem child. Bones and the Clippers came out winners in this deal....And claiming Denver doesn't need or couldn't have used Bones because they barely held off the Lakers in the first game and needed a miracle from Murray in the second game, just to hold home court advantage does little to prove Denver was smart or right about anything.
 
...And claiming Denver doesn't need or couldn't have used Bones because they barely held off the Lakers in the first game and needed a miracle from Murray in the second game, just to hold home court advantage does little to prove Denver was smart or right about anything.

Eh, I wouldn’t call that a miracle. Murray is a very good player and did what good players do. They step up and win ball games. That’s like saying Boston would be nothing without Tatum doing heroic stuff, which he does all the time.

I actually think Denver is better off as it stands. Caldwell Pope has hit some big shots and had a few real nice playoff games. He’s also seemingly a strong leader. Denver is just fine and I hope they win it all.
 
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