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We know when we have a packed house.

For everyone else, just look in the corners.
 
No one tracks asses in the seats. It is always tickets sold. It's a "sell out," not an "occupied-seat-out."
I suspect most track asses in the building, but just don’t publish it…
 
I suspect most track asses in the building, but just don’t publish it…
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The season has now concluded for all A-10 teams. These were the 2023-24 season men's basketball home attendance numbers (per stats from each program's site) reported for the fifteen A-10 schools:

ATLANTIC 10 HOME ATTENDANCE BY AVERAGE
TEAM|GAMES|TOTAL|2023-24 AVG|2022-23 AVG|2021-22 AVG
DAYTON|15|201,105|13,407|13,407|13,407
VCU|19|136,813|7,201|7,303|6,827
RICHMOND|16|93,336|5,834|6,285|6,072
ST LOUIS|16|90,238|5,640|6,694|5,517
URI|17|72,024|4,237|5,158|4,814
ST BONAVENTURE|15|61,146|4,076|3,764|3,974
GEORGE MASON|17|66,669|3,922|3,584|3,558
UMASS|16|55,633|3,477|3,580|2,219
LOYOLA|17|52,686|3,099|3,373|3,266
DAVIDSON|16|47,062|2,941|3,356|3,209
DUQUESNE|17|43,377|2,552|2,178|2,174
ST JOE'S|17|38,319|2,254|1,504|1,579
FORDHAM|17|31,724|1,866|1,135|633
LASALLE|17|28,729|1,690|1,481|1,857
GW|18|29,312|1,628|1,608|1,120
TOTAL|250|1,048,173|4,193|4,240|4,245
Those are some pathetic numbers for the bottom half of the league.
 
No one tracks asses in the seats.
Yeah, I've never seen any data on this. What are the percentage of flat ones versus plump ones. How many big one compared small ones. How many athletic butts we're attracting versus flabby ones. We need to get a graduate student on this as soon as possible! :D
 
Those are some pathetic numbers for the bottom half of the league.
Some of those programs have very small venues so the numbers are a bit misleading. You can't just pronounce them as pathetic. What needs to be included is the arena seating capacity for these programs. Because, let's face it, VCU numbers look pathetic against Dayton......except we both sellout/fill our venues to max capacity for most/many of our games......thus, not pathetic.
 
I can't find it, but I'm pretty certain I saw something that said the NIT payout is now up to $5,200 for each game played plus expenses. The NIT is a little more than breakeven for most teams.

The money ESPN pays to the NCAA to broadcast the games is part of the overall contract package, from what I understand, so no school gets extra for being on any of the ESPN channels.

As for the Peppas, a band NEVER travels to a true road game. Our game was at Villanova and tonight is at South Florida, so as true road games, our band will not be going. That's not a VCU decision. That's just standard practice for a road game. If you were Villanova or South Florida, would you want the visiting team bringing their pep band? If we make the semifinals at Hinkle, then it's a neutral court game, and we could bring the band.
That’s not entirely true. Teams have the option to send their spirit squads to away games during the NIT it’s just usually not done to financial reasons.
 
That’s not entirely true. Teams have the option to send their spirit squads to away games during the NIT it’s just usually not done to financial reasons.
Well there you have it. If we cannot afford it we cannot afford it.

Look as much as I like dancers, cheer leaders, and the band, they aren’t the product I come to see.

If leaving any and all ancillary personnel behind means I have more money for players and the team I say put the money on the players and the team.

Band/spirit squad is important but not as important as the team. Further when fans don’t show up there isn’t much spirit to muster.

At USF there were less than 50 VCU fans in attendance. Spending on the spirit squad would have been a waste.

Finally love what they do and energy they bring but there is a hierarchy to this thing. Why not do fundraisers to supplement your budget? You are a great band. Sell you talent on the open market.
 
Well there you have it. If we cannot afford it we cannot afford it.

Look as much as I like dancers, cheer leaders, and the band, they aren’t the product I come to see.

If leaving any and all ancillary personnel behind means I have more money for players and the team I say put the money on the players and the team.

Band/spirit squad is important but not as important as the team. Further when fans don’t show up there isn’t much spirit to muster.

At USF there were less than 50 VCU fans in attendance. Spending on the spirit squad would have been a waste.

Finally love what they do and energy they bring but there is a hierarchy to this thing. Why not do fundraisers to supplement your budget? You are a great band. Sell you talent on the open market.


The idea of having a rival pep band on hand for what is essentially another school's home game makes little sense.

However, it has happened.

In 1986, Norfolk State took its "Best Show in Town" pep band to Mount St. Mary's for an NCAA D-2 playoff game.

The rambunctious Mount's crowd, in those days, was very "Duke-ish" and made life miserable on the visitors.

But in this case, NSU won 78-75, foiling a packed house.

I later talked to the band director who told me "We subdued them with our music." I was there and kind of agreed.
 
Dayton - 99.9
VCU- 94.5
UR- 81
SLU- 53
URI - 52.9
Bona- 74
GMU- 39
Umass- 36.6
Loy- 62
Davidson-55
Duq- 73
SJU- 53.6
Ford- 58
LaSalle- 49.7
GWU- 32.5
I know it's purely subjective, but I'd be curious what venues others think are the best to go watch the Rams on the road?
 
I know it's purely subjective, but I'd be curious what venues others think are the best to go watch the Rams on the road?
I've only been to Westhampton which is nice, but not going to lie, going there and losing sucks.
 
I know it's purely subjective, but I'd be curious what venues others think are the best to go watch the Rams on the road?
Davidson when packed is good and decent sightlines. Dayton is fantastic when the crowd is into it. I was there for a W where we blew a 20 pt lead and Evans saved our a$$. It was wild. One of the best atmospheres I’ve seen. The view kind of sucks though especially the upper sections. UR probably is the best for away fans as far as viewing. No bad seats and honestly if we build a new arena we should use that model especially acoustics. If wanting to see based on atmosphere Dayton, UR (They show up for that game.), Bona, Davidson, and SJU
 
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