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That's the worst fitting suit I've ever seen
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He bought it during bike week in Daytona Beach.
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I hate to make my Ram Nation debut under such inauspicious circumstances (after lurking for some time now), but I felt I needed to comment (Hi to all, btw).
I recently wrote this e-mail to Greg Burton, hoping that he may be able to bring some attention to these events come Monday. Pav and the gang certainly have a much closer, and likely detailed, account of what happened. I plan on writing another e-mail to Norwood tomorrow and possibly the Bethune-Cookman AD, but I'd rather be clear headed for such an e-mail.
Btw, I wouldn't expect you to read this whole e-mail. I went on a bit of a tangent.
"Greg,
First off let me get in the requisite "big fan of the show." My schedule doesn't allow me to listen as frequently as I'd like, but I try to as much as I can.
I was e-mailing tonight to express my displeasure about the incident between Bethune-Cookman head coach Clifford Reed and one of the VCU cheerleaders at tonight's basketball game. I am not sure if you were aware of the situation from your vantage point, although I would imagine you may have heard from other disconcerted fans by now as well. The incident occurred almost immediately after the technical foul that was assessed to Reed in the second half. As the referees conferred about the decision, Reed inexplicably inched his way toward the baseline right in front of the band and the cheerleaders. The cheerleaders had their arms raised and pom poms in the air as they regularly do. It's at this point that Reed reached out and pushed one of the cheerleader's hands down. Why he would move to directly in front of the student's section of all places is mind boggling in and of itself. For the record my vantage point for these events was from section 3, just sideways from the band and almost directly lined up with the cheerleaders, so I had a clear view of these events.
Immediately those of us that saw this transpire began shouting for some sort of official interference, but unfortunately those in power apparently didn't see for themselves what had transpired, at least not immediately. A few of the Rowdies on the floor spent time as the game progressed to mock Reed's actions, with some of them holding pom poms aloft only for their "Clifford Reed" to come push them down. As the game wore on official looking men with suits and radios were seen scurrying around and there was an increased security presence in front of the students section at the end of the game, presumably to make sure none of the student attempted to impede the Bethune-Cookman exit (I must admit, however, that this is the first time I have been in this particular location for a game, so that may be the typical way security handles the end of the game for the visitors, but it did seem like there was one official in particular that took an interest in holding the surprisingly calm fans back at the end).
Regardless of whether there was increased security or not, it was clear that there was some understanding of what happened. Now obviously despite my good vantage point I was not on the floor. Had it been a line of fans that Coach Reed had been near I probably would have assumed someone said something to garner that sort of a reaction. However, and I may be naive, I can't imagine that one of the cheerleaders was standing there talking trash to the opposing coach. Quite frankly, even if that was the case there is still absolutely no reason for a grown man representing another school to become physical with a female college student. As a high school teacher I frequently have to deal with male students becoming physical, either in a playful manner or an aggressive manner, with their female classmates. It is not necessarily a set of actions we need to deal with in that regard, but an overall mindset that many of our young men have. Clifford Reed is, in theory, also supposed to be an educator and he should not be a contributing factor to that negative mindset. I do not know anything about Clifford Reed or the Bethune-Cookman basketball program, but I am quite sure that this is not the image that they would like to project. As a publicized leader of young adults I would hope that Clifford Reed would set a better example through his actions.
I am a May graduate of the VCU School of Education and I have been in the student section a number of times. I understand the heated environment that there is in that area and I know that students tend to act foolish. I remember at the CAA Tournament last year there was a list that was expressly passed along to the students of things that they were not allowed to mention in any chant/song/etc. Sometimes things can be rather uncouth. However those are students and most professionals understand how to respond, or rather not respond, to that situation. It would seem that Clifford Reed is not one of those individuals. I hope that Dr. Rao or Mr. Teague or someone else in the VCU administration are alerted to this event (I hope there is some sort of video evidence, but unfortunately I doubt there is any to be had) and opens up some form of communication with the Bethune-Cookman administration. Maybe I'm being overly sensitive to this issue, but a school that tolerates this kind of behavior is not a school VCU needs to be inviting into their home.
Sorry for going on a rant, but I just wanted to make sure that this issue was brought to light. Perhaps there are others with a better perspective on these events than I, but I felt that I needed to share what I could. I hope that by the time your show rolls around on Monday that this is not forgotten about in a see of scores and events. Thank you for taking the time to read this (lengthy) e-mail and letting me voice my frustration. Have a great weekend."
I recently wrote this e-mail to Greg Burton, hoping that he may be able to bring some attention to these events come Monday. Pav and the gang certainly have a much closer, and likely detailed, account of what happened. I plan on writing another e-mail to Norwood tomorrow and possibly the Bethune-Cookman AD, but I'd rather be clear headed for such an e-mail.
Btw, I wouldn't expect you to read this whole e-mail. I went on a bit of a tangent.
"Greg,
First off let me get in the requisite "big fan of the show." My schedule doesn't allow me to listen as frequently as I'd like, but I try to as much as I can.
I was e-mailing tonight to express my displeasure about the incident between Bethune-Cookman head coach Clifford Reed and one of the VCU cheerleaders at tonight's basketball game. I am not sure if you were aware of the situation from your vantage point, although I would imagine you may have heard from other disconcerted fans by now as well. The incident occurred almost immediately after the technical foul that was assessed to Reed in the second half. As the referees conferred about the decision, Reed inexplicably inched his way toward the baseline right in front of the band and the cheerleaders. The cheerleaders had their arms raised and pom poms in the air as they regularly do. It's at this point that Reed reached out and pushed one of the cheerleader's hands down. Why he would move to directly in front of the student's section of all places is mind boggling in and of itself. For the record my vantage point for these events was from section 3, just sideways from the band and almost directly lined up with the cheerleaders, so I had a clear view of these events.
Immediately those of us that saw this transpire began shouting for some sort of official interference, but unfortunately those in power apparently didn't see for themselves what had transpired, at least not immediately. A few of the Rowdies on the floor spent time as the game progressed to mock Reed's actions, with some of them holding pom poms aloft only for their "Clifford Reed" to come push them down. As the game wore on official looking men with suits and radios were seen scurrying around and there was an increased security presence in front of the students section at the end of the game, presumably to make sure none of the student attempted to impede the Bethune-Cookman exit (I must admit, however, that this is the first time I have been in this particular location for a game, so that may be the typical way security handles the end of the game for the visitors, but it did seem like there was one official in particular that took an interest in holding the surprisingly calm fans back at the end).
Regardless of whether there was increased security or not, it was clear that there was some understanding of what happened. Now obviously despite my good vantage point I was not on the floor. Had it been a line of fans that Coach Reed had been near I probably would have assumed someone said something to garner that sort of a reaction. However, and I may be naive, I can't imagine that one of the cheerleaders was standing there talking trash to the opposing coach. Quite frankly, even if that was the case there is still absolutely no reason for a grown man representing another school to become physical with a female college student. As a high school teacher I frequently have to deal with male students becoming physical, either in a playful manner or an aggressive manner, with their female classmates. It is not necessarily a set of actions we need to deal with in that regard, but an overall mindset that many of our young men have. Clifford Reed is, in theory, also supposed to be an educator and he should not be a contributing factor to that negative mindset. I do not know anything about Clifford Reed or the Bethune-Cookman basketball program, but I am quite sure that this is not the image that they would like to project. As a publicized leader of young adults I would hope that Clifford Reed would set a better example through his actions.
I am a May graduate of the VCU School of Education and I have been in the student section a number of times. I understand the heated environment that there is in that area and I know that students tend to act foolish. I remember at the CAA Tournament last year there was a list that was expressly passed along to the students of things that they were not allowed to mention in any chant/song/etc. Sometimes things can be rather uncouth. However those are students and most professionals understand how to respond, or rather not respond, to that situation. It would seem that Clifford Reed is not one of those individuals. I hope that Dr. Rao or Mr. Teague or someone else in the VCU administration are alerted to this event (I hope there is some sort of video evidence, but unfortunately I doubt there is any to be had) and opens up some form of communication with the Bethune-Cookman administration. Maybe I'm being overly sensitive to this issue, but a school that tolerates this kind of behavior is not a school VCU needs to be inviting into their home.
Sorry for going on a rant, but I just wanted to make sure that this issue was brought to light. Perhaps there are others with a better perspective on these events than I, but I felt that I needed to share what I could. I hope that by the time your show rolls around on Monday that this is not forgotten about in a see of scores and events. Thank you for taking the time to read this (lengthy) e-mail and letting me voice my frustration. Have a great weekend."
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The coach was a jerk. Simple as that. Not only did he make her put them down but the fact that put his hands on her to force her to put them down. Scum bag. Bet it makes him feel like a big man to push a dancer's arm down. NCAA should do something about that classless loser.
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Clifford Reed, Jr., really skirted the line there on tort of battery. It's not as simple as him being a jerk: he put his hands on someone and forced their arm down, obviously against their will while they were in shock.
This was probably one of the most outrageous things I've ever seen an HC do during a live college ball game. Totally bizarre and unacceptable.
Dr. Trudie Kibbe Reed
President
Office Location: Thomas White Hall 1st Floor
Office Phone: 386-481-2001
[email protected]
Lynn Thompson
Director, Athletics Department
Office Location: Wildcat Center
Office Phone: 386-481-2216
[email protected]
Clifford Reed Jr.
Men's Basketball Coach
Office Location: Richard V. Moore, Sr., Gymnasium
Office Phone: 386-481-2214
[email protected]
This may have had something to do with it:
http://b-cuathletics.com/sports/m-baskb ... _cj00.html
Not sure if any of this will do any good; it seems the President and the POS are related from what I could turn up. Nonetheless, a totally classless and extremely disrespectful and incendiary thing to do.
Jesus, what a scrub ass coach and scrub ass team. Did anyone else notice how haggard their uniforms were? I'm kind of worried we didn't post 35+ on them even though we subbed in all the frosh. Seriously, this douche basically went from coaching high school straight to Buttass-Cocknocker. What a downgrade....
http://b-cuathletics.com/sports/m-baskb ... ord00.html
This was probably one of the most outrageous things I've ever seen an HC do during a live college ball game. Totally bizarre and unacceptable.
Dr. Trudie Kibbe Reed
President
Office Location: Thomas White Hall 1st Floor
Office Phone: 386-481-2001
[email protected]
Lynn Thompson
Director, Athletics Department
Office Location: Wildcat Center
Office Phone: 386-481-2216
[email protected]
Clifford Reed Jr.
Men's Basketball Coach
Office Location: Richard V. Moore, Sr., Gymnasium
Office Phone: 386-481-2214
[email protected]
This may have had something to do with it:
http://b-cuathletics.com/sports/m-baskb ... _cj00.html
Not sure if any of this will do any good; it seems the President and the POS are related from what I could turn up. Nonetheless, a totally classless and extremely disrespectful and incendiary thing to do.
Jesus, what a scrub ass coach and scrub ass team. Did anyone else notice how haggard their uniforms were? I'm kind of worried we didn't post 35+ on them even though we subbed in all the frosh. Seriously, this douche basically went from coaching high school straight to Buttass-Cocknocker. What a downgrade....
http://b-cuathletics.com/sports/m-baskb ... ord00.html
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If you want to get some attention send a letter to South Ormond Beach Recreation Center. I am sure they would be thrilled to hear their prized mentor is walking around grabbing dancers arms and crotch grabbing.
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Mercury said:
I feel you and agree on the merit of your point but disagree in principle. The guy could be under some sort of probation with his employer for similar incidents; if he's not, his school should be put on notice regarding what went down. It may not accomplish anything in the immediate, but it's the right thing to do. He pulled this poop in our house, purposely right in front of our student section. More importantly, the young girl who didn't know better than to slap dude in the face and get him ejected deserves it.
I'm still kind of blown away that the cop and RMC staff sitting directly across the table while this went down just sat there.
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i'll get cr@p for this, but this whole BCU coach-dance team pom pom thing (which I clearly saw) just wasn't that big of a deal...I've seen and heard way worst at ODU, GMU games...