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Most guys at his level have an ego. Its what fuels them. Bones isnt especially out of pocket.

I've learned to give people the benefit of the doubt until I have all the facts. In this case, few of us know the real deal

Therefore, I am riding with Bones on this one unless I learn otherwise.
What I heard was that his ego caused a lot of problems, particularly during his freshman year at VCU. Yes, every premier athlete has an ego, but not everyone's ego causes problems. I still love the guy, but it seems to be an ongoing problem. I hope he can find a balance between confidence and problematic behavior.
 

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Murray dropped 22 in the 4th quarter, they won, and are two games from the finals in which they will probably win.

It looks like they made the right decision.
Maybe so. The Nuggets look good. They might have a problem with depth in the finals if they make it there. They traded for Reggie Jackson who was a key contributor for clippers for years and he washes the towels for Denver. Bones would be on the bench with Nnaji, Ish Smith, Cancar and the rest of the roster. I know he could have toughed it out but things unraveled. That is over now so onward and upward.
 
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Denver could be the best run organization in the league. Only the Bucks have won more games the last 5 years, and have probably drafted better than anyone the last 10 years. They have built a contender exclusively from within without being a destination for free agents, which seems incredibly difficult today. Wasting a late first round pick is not really that big a deal, and they are probably a better team without him.

I have not really followed him in the league. He mentioned “communication problems”. I’m sure they let you know what they want, which is probably not a diva from the 7th or 8th guy off the bench. Play your role and cash the checks, seems simple. Playing for a title contender would seem to make it even easier.
 

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What I heard was that his ego caused a lot of problems, particularly during his freshman year at VCU. Yes, every premier athlete has an ego, but not everyone's ego causes problems. I still love the guy, but it seems to be an ongoing problem. I hope he can find a balance between confidence and problematic behavior.
I think this is a rumor. Bones was a talented freshman. Could the seniors have been the problem? I would not throw all the issues that season on Bones. Seems like a coaching issue to me.
 

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I think this is a rumor. Bones was a talented freshman. Could the seniors have been the problem? I would not throw all the issues that season on Bones. Seems like a coaching issue to me.
I heard it from someone who works in the athletic department. I'm not saying Bones caused the problems that brought down that 2019 team, but I think he had a hand in it. I think a LOT of things went wrong that year -- injuries, egos, family members, etc.
 
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I think this is a rumor. Bones was a talented freshman. Could the seniors have been the problem? I would not throw all the issues that season on Bones. Seems like a coaching issue to me.
Agree. It's on the coaching staff to address and fix chemistry issues on a team. Glad I don't have to figure out how to do that, but then again, I'm not a coach. I would think many coaches have to address these issues, but that 2019-2020 team just never seemed fixed to me.
 

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Denver could be the best run organization in the league. Only the Bucks have won more games the last 5 years, and have probably drafted better than anyone the last 10 years. They have built a contender exclusively from within without being a destination for free agents, which seems incredibly difficult today. Wasting a late first round pick is not really that big a deal, and they are probably a better team without him.

I have not really followed him in the league. He mentioned “communication problems”. I’m sure they let you know what they want, which is probably not a diva from the 7th or 8th guy off the bench. Play your role and cash the checks, seems simple. Playing for a title contender would seem to make it even easier.
I would agree with this except the guy who did all that left before the season started and is with the T-Wolves now, and wasting a first rounder is a bigger deal for for a small market franchise. Of course many/most picks outside the lottery don't work out, and many of those don't as well.

As for the second part I imagine it was a learning experience. Hopefully things work out with the Clips, cursed franchise though they are.
 

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Denver could be the best run organization in the league. Only the Bucks have won more games the last 5 years, and have probably drafted better than anyone the last 10 years. They have built a contender exclusively from within without being a destination for free agents, which seems incredibly difficult today. Wasting a late first round pick is not really that big a deal, and they are probably a better team without him.

I have not really followed him in the league. He mentioned “communication problems”. I’m sure they let you know what they want, which is probably not a diva from the 7th or 8th guy off the bench. Play your role and cash the checks, seems simple. Playing for a title contender would seem to make it even easier.
I think that it’s hard to call an organization that has never won an NBA title or even made the Finals the best run organization in the league.
 

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I think that it’s hard to call an organization that has never won an NBA title or even made the Finals the best run organization in the league.
Yeah. I followed them closely from the time Bones was drafted. I watched all of their games too. Their front office is weak. VCU has a better practice facility. The won the lottery by getting Jokic. I like Gordon too. It just did not work out. Bones did get some good experience there though.
 

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Yeah. I followed them closely from the time Bones was drafted. I watched all of their games too. Their front office is weak. VCU has a better practice facility. The won the lottery by getting Jokic. I like Gordon too. It just did not work out. Bones did get some good experience there though.
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I think that it’s hard to call an organization that has never won an NBA title or even made the Finals the best run organization in the league.
Not talking historically, just recently.

The NBA is dominated by same couple of players and/or the same couple of franchises for 10 or 15 years. Unless you have one of those guys, or are in LA, Miami etc and players just want to be there, you are on the outside looking in. The Spurs were kind of unique. Denver can't just go out and sign a Lebron or Kawhi with All Star sidekicks or their flunkies who will take a pay cut to carry their suitcases. What Denver has been doing recently is impressive.
 

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Not talking historically, just recently.

The NBA is dominated by same couple of players and/or the same couple of franchises for 10 or 15 years. Unless you have one of those guys, or are in LA, Miami etc and players just want to be there, you are on the outside looking in. The Spurs were kind of unique. Denver can't just go out and sign a Lebron or Kawhi with All Star sidekicks or their flunkies who will take a pay cut to carry their suitcases. What Denver has been doing recently is impressive.
It’s impressive, but I think they need to win a couple titles to get the best run franchise in the NBA title. A least one, but maybe a couple.

Golden State and Milwaukee have both been run very well. Toronto and Miami have been too.
 
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I would agree with this except the guy who did all that left before the season started and is with the T-Wolves now, and wasting a first rounder is a bigger deal for for a small market franchise. Of course many/most picks outside the lottery don't work out, and many of those don't as well.

As for the second part I imagine it was a learning experience. Hopefully things work out with the Clips, cursed franchise though they are.
Kawhi is turning 32 and just had another knee. Westbrook is done. They will blow that team up soon.
 
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