Future of the Coliseum

Didn't they do a $300k study to determine what was wrong like 4 months ago? No wonder the city will never get it together. Bunch of donks
 
The Future of the Coliseum:
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Maybe City Council will think BIG, spend lots of money and build an enclosed bridge with shops and a cafeteria across Broad St and call it "6th st market place" or something. The City will make MAD money.....hahaha (Braves, Canal Walk, Convention Center....city flops)

We are in a world of hurt if Capital projects are left up to them. If it weren't for VCU and Dr. Trani to kick them in the nads the city would still look like the 80s. I find it funny the funding for the study is provided privately. We needed a new Coliseum 10-15 years ago, way before the recession. I personally think they should move it to Henrico or Chesterfield since the city doesn't give a flip about it anyway. It’s no wonder why Richmond will never be a sports town.
 
HaHa, I've worked at 3 at of the facilities mentioned in this article, so I can provide some of my thoughts.

Coliseum (worked in operations): It is a nice facility. There is plenty of seating and the event areas are large enough for circuses, monster trucks and the ice rink allows both hockey and ice shows to be hosted at the coliseum. I've been involved with enough "changeovers" to know how really versatile the event floor can be. You can go from hockey to a stage performance to an ice show to a conference and back to hockey in a week. The problem is the seating area. While the bowl shape does help capacity there are a lot of blank areas right around the ends that are only filled in for basketball (or the floor is filled in for stage performances, conferences, etc.) In addition, many of the seats are worn out and routinely seats would have to be replaced after an event. The suites are small and don't have much table space for food and drinks. While there are some nice folding chairs, they still have a lot of old ones that fold in a weird fashion, the cushions are worn out and they break on a regular basis. The scoreboard is antiquated and it's most impressive feature is the fact they can change the team names. The patron areas show their years of use and anyone who has been to the arena lately comes out thinking, "what an old place".

John Paul Jones Arena (worked as construction worker): This is an impressive facility. It is well designed for basketball, stage performances and arena events. They can fold the student seating up for a stage area and it also opens up a large opening on the side which connects to overhead doors so you can easily move big stuff in and out during a performance. The lighting control system is fully integrated and all hallway, house and permanent sport/stage lighting can be controlled from a central station, as well as remote stations located in electrical closets. Even with a basketball capacity higher than the coliseum, their nosebleeds seem closer than the 300's in the coliseum. There are LED screens all around with both allow for atmosphere (ex. showing V-sabers), advertising and scoreboard. The suites are roomy and have plenty of table room for refreshments along with a mini fridge and microwave. I would not be disappointed if the coliseum was replaced by a similar building. Admittedly the whole bleacher folding thing may limit seating for events (I can't find capacity for JPJ with the seats folded.) And to get an event area just as big with the coliseum, the seats may be affected.

Richmond International Raceway (worked as security guard): There is little comparison to this and an arena. Although it is a great place for a race. The seats are bleachers since it is outside, but they do seem in better condition than the coliseum seats, albeit much less comfortable. The new scoring tower is amazing, as it uses LED screens to display various information (video feed, position, quickest speed, qualifying order, green, yellow, red, white and checker flag conditions). Parking is free and enough spots for everyone. Maybe I'm biased, but I do feel it offers one of the best fan experiences in NASCAR.

There's lots more to get into (concessions, bathrooms, etc) but I'm already running long.
 
Putting a new Coliseum in Chesterfield or Henrico really does not make sense from a logistical standpoint. On top of that the city is responsible for the maintenance of the facility not Henrico or Chesterfield. A central location makes more sense. At least somone is doing a study . That is better than sitting around just talking. It is wise to research before you invest in anything of substantial cost. At the time that the coliseum was built it was state of the art. I agree that is has served it's purpose and it is time to retire. The debate can be made about functionality...It has been fuctional up to this point. I am excited from the standpoint that there is corporate interest:" The consulting team was chosen through a private procurement process involving the city and the four corporate financiers: Dominion Resources Inc., Altria, Genworth Financial and MeadWestvaco." Richmond has had some failed project but no different than other urban areas....just look at Waterside in Norfolk. It was the talk of the town...now just like 6th street Market it is on it's way out..a shell of what it use to be. I am encouraged by a new study being executed. It is in my opinion that in due time we will have a new facility in this city. It is about time UVA got a new facility ...the old arena was past it's prime long before they decided to build. In order for the city not to make the same mistakes it makes sense to be careful and make the right descisions even if it takes a litte more time. And when the new venue is built whick I believe is an inevitabiltiy ...We all will be proud to associate ourselves once again with the center city....cause if anyone thinks Henrico or Chesterfield is going to float the bill for a new arena in their county....you would be just dreaming ..not going to happen... people in the county to busy bashing the city instead of concentrating on regional cooperation....not pretty just the reality.. :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek:
 
eaglescout1984 said:
HaHa, I've worked at 3 at of the facilities mentioned in this article, so I can provide some of my thoughts.

Coliseum (worked in operations): It is a nice facility. There is plenty of seating and the event areas are large enough for circuses, monster trucks and the ice rink allows both hockey and ice shows to be hosted at the coliseum. I've been involved with enough "changeovers" to know how really versatile the event floor can be. You can go from hockey to a stage performance to an ice show to a conference and back to hockey in a week. The problem is the seating area. While the bowl shape does help capacity there are a lot of blank areas right around the ends that are only filled in for basketball (or the floor is filled in for stage performances, conferences, etc.) In addition, many of the seats are worn out and routinely seats would have to be replaced after an event. The suites are small and don't have much table space for food and drinks. While there are some nice folding chairs, they still have a lot of old ones that fold in a weird fashion, the cushions are worn out and they break on a regular basis. The scoreboard is antiquated and it's most impressive feature is the fact they can change the team names. The patron areas show their years of use and anyone who has been to the arena lately comes out thinking, "what an old place".

John Paul Jones Arena (worked as construction worker): This is an impressive facility. It is well designed for basketball, stage performances and arena events. They can fold the student seating up for a stage area and it also opens up a large opening on the side which connects to overhead doors so you can easily move big stuff in and out during a performance. The lighting control system is fully integrated and all hallway, house and permanent sport/stage lighting can be controlled from a central station, as well as remote stations located in electrical closets. Even with a basketball capacity higher than the coliseum, their nosebleeds seem closer than the 300's in the coliseum. There are LED screens all around with both allow for atmosphere (ex. showing V-sabers), advertising and scoreboard. The suites are roomy and have plenty of table room for refreshments along with a mini fridge and microwave. I would not be disappointed if the coliseum was replaced by a similar building. Admittedly the whole bleacher folding thing may limit seating for events (I can't find capacity for JPJ with the seats folded.) And to get an event area just as big with the coliseum, the seats may be affected.

Richmond International Raceway (worked as security guard): There is little comparison to this and an arena. Although it is a great place for a race. The seats are bleachers since it is outside, but they do seem in better condition than the coliseum seats, albeit much less comfortable. The new scoring tower is amazing, as it uses LED screens to display various information (video feed, position, quickest speed, qualifying order, green, yellow, red, white and checker flag conditions). Parking is free and enough spots for everyone. Maybe I'm biased, but I do feel it offers one of the best fan experiences in NASCAR.

There's lots more to get into (concessions, bathrooms, etc) but I'm already running long.
 
ramramthankyoumaam said:
eaglescout1984 said:
HaHa, I've worked at 3 at of the facilities mentioned in this article, so I can provide some of my thoughts.

Coliseum (worked in operations): It is a nice facility. There is plenty of seating and the event areas are large enough for circuses, monster trucks and the ice rink allows both hockey and ice shows to be hosted at the coliseum. I've been involved with enough "changeovers" to know how really versatile the event floor can be. You can go from hockey to a stage performance to an ice show to a conference and back to hockey in a week. The problem is the seating area. While the bowl shape does help capacity there are a lot of blank areas right around the ends that are only filled in for basketball (or the floor is filled in for stage performances, conferences, etc.) In addition, many of the seats are worn out and routinely seats would have to be replaced after an event. The suites are small and don't have much table space for food and drinks. While there are some nice folding chairs, they still have a lot of old ones that fold in a weird fashion, the cushions are worn out and they break on a regular basis. The scoreboard is antiquated and it's most impressive feature is the fact they can change the team names. The patron areas show their years of use and anyone who has been to the arena lately comes out thinking, "what an old place".

John Paul Jones Arena (worked as construction worker): This is an impressive facility. It is well designed for basketball, stage performances and arena events. They can fold the student seating up for a stage area and it also opens up a large opening on the side which connects to overhead doors so you can easily move big stuff in and out during a performance. The lighting control system is fully integrated and all hallway, house and permanent sport/stage lighting can be controlled from a central station, as well as remote stations located in electrical closets. Even with a basketball capacity higher than the coliseum, their nosebleeds seem closer than the 300's in the coliseum. There are LED screens all around with both allow for atmosphere (ex. showing V-sabers), advertising and scoreboard. The suites are roomy and have plenty of table room for refreshments along with a mini fridge and microwave. I would not be disappointed if the coliseum was replaced by a similar building. Admittedly the whole bleacher folding thing may limit seating for events (I can't find capacity for JPJ with the seats folded.) And to get an event area just as big with the coliseum, the seats may be affected.

Richmond International Raceway (worked as security guard): There is little comparison to this and an arena. Although it is a great place for a race. The seats are bleachers since it is outside, but they do seem in better condition than the coliseum seats, albeit much less comfortable. The new scoring tower is amazing, as it uses LED screens to display various information (video feed, position, quickest speed, qualifying order, green, yellow, red, white and checker flag conditions). Parking is free and enough spots for everyone. Maybe I'm biased, but I do feel it offers one of the best fan experiences in NASCAR.

There's lots more to get into (concessions, bathrooms, etc) but I'm already running long.

The thing I hate about JPJ though is that they crammed the upper level seating so close together, coupled with very steep stairways leads to an uneasy and inconvenient feeling when you have to get up and move around anywhere. Feels like you are about to fall off a cliff while on the stairs and you can forget about getting to the middle of a row without stepping on everybody's feet and the feeling you'll end up three rows down if you trip. It's fancy and versatile but I actually feel more comfortable in the Richmond Collesium.
 
SPI-DA1 said:
Putting a new Coliseum in Chesterfield or Henrico really does not make sense from a logistical standpoint.

I could debate that argument all day with the pro- Henrico/Chesterfield people. It's an argument that really irritates me. Chesterfield and Henrico would love to have a venue that generates the revenue of an arena. But Richmond makes the most sense. It's centrally located to EVERYONE in the metro area and all road systems in the area (minus 288) point to Richmond. Those in Ashland have the same drive as the from Midlothian. Those front Short Pump have the same drive as those from Mechanicsville. Those from the Tri Cities just have a 20 minute drive up 95. Logistically Richmond makes sense and will always make sense. Yes, the City has had difficulty appropriately maintaining the facilty, and this issue has been on the backburner WAY TOO LONG. But at the end of the day the arena belongs in Richmond, not the burbs!
 
A new coliseum is long overdue, and to build a new facility is the resposibility, costs, of the region not just the City of Richmond. Right out of the gate, per today's newspaper comments from Virgil Hazelett, you can see that the County of Henrico wants nothing to do with the project. The citizens of metro Richmond need to put pressure on their elected officials, and let them know that it's time for a new colisem. Logistically the City of Richmond, like it or not, is the best place for the new coliseum due to its central location. It is good to see several large Richmond headquarted coporations involved, and hopefully the administration at VCU is taking note of these corporations for our athletic department!
 
BLACK&BLUE said:
A new coliseum is long overdue, and to build a new facility is the resposibility, costs, of the region not just the City of Richmond. Right out of the gate, per today's newspaper comments from Virgil Hazelett, you can see that the County of Henrico wants nothing to do with the project. The citizens of metro Richmond need to put pressure on their elected officials, and let them know that it's time for a new colisem. Logistically the City of Richmond, like it or not, is the best place for the new coliseum due to its central location. It is good to see several large Richmond headquarted coporations involved, and hopefully the administration at VCU is taking note of these corporations for our athletic department!

Bingo! Too bad Ronald Reagan dissolved all Metro Gov'ts. This would be much easier if he hadn't.
 
BLACK&BLUE said:
A new coliseum is long overdue, and to build a new facility is the resposibility, costs, of the region not just the City of Richmond. Right out of the gate, per today's newspaper comments from Virgil Hazelett, you can see that the County of Henrico wants nothing to do with the project. The citizens of metro Richmond need to put pressure on their elected officials, and let them know that it's time for a new colisem. Logistically the City of Richmond, like it or not, is the best place for the new coliseum due to its central location. It is good to see several large Richmond headquarted coporations involved, and hopefully the administration at VCU is taking note of these corporations for our athletic department!
The crazy thing is that they don't want to participate in making the facilities better but I bet your bottom dollar they would be their going to events drawn by a new facility...That is the biggest thing that has hurt this region...NO REGIONAL COOPERATION...and it is alway the city that gets blamed...go figure...in the imortal words of Snoop Dog.." Everybody got their cups but they ain't chip in"..... :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek:
 
Richmond is cursed being an independent city between two counties and not in one county. They should just secede land to Henrico north and Chesterfield south and make Richmond smaller and more manageable. Then all the counties work closer with each other to make Richmond more successful.
 
BaNgMyPrOgRaM said:
Richmond is cursed being an independent city between two counties and not in one county. They should just secede land to Henrico north and Chesterfield south and make Richmond smaller and more manageable. Then all the counties work closer with each other to make Richmond more successful.

All of Virginia is cursed with the independent city system. Virginia has 39 independent cities. In fact 39 of the 42 in the country are in VA. The others are St. Louis, Baltimore and Carson City, NV.

To make matters worse, independent cities in VA cannot annex and thus are all landlocked. Some have given up their charters recently because it's the easiest thing to do. Become a town and share expensive services (water/sewer, police/fire, SCHOOLS) with a county. Town's can annex.
 
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