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i hate the term mid-major but when I say go BU, I say go non privelege-6 conferences. The "so-called"'power 6' conferences BCS conferences are failing.

Look at the priv-6. The ACC, SEC, Big 10, 12 East and Pac. Who died and left them in charge? Congress? State governments?
 
Butler needs to win for us. Let's get behind them! Besides they are playing at home so bet with your friends!!
 
not gonna lie. i LOVE that butler team. they just seem like a bunch of good kids who play the game the right way.

as for calipari and huggins, i hate to see either one of those scumbags move on, but at least one is a goner.

as for tomorrow, go baylor.
 
BaNgMyPrOgRaM said:
i hate the term mid-major but when I say go BU, I say go non privelege-6 conferences. The "so-called"'power 6' conferences BCS conferences are failing.

Look at the priv-6. The ACC, SEC, Big 10, 12 East and Pac. Who died and left them in charge? Congress? State governments?

This is what I've been saying for a long time. How can they control anything? There are far more non-bigs than bigs, so how come the other schools just don't out vote them???? I say an alliance of about 250 non-BCS schools could just about control the NCAA. Each of the 346 teams gets one vote, the BCS schools are less than 100 of that number. So why not just get a movement to vote together and level the playing field?

But my guess is that there are no administrators at the non-BCS schools who would start such a movement for fear of being blackballed from ever "moving up".
 
I'll tell you who left them in charge.............ESPN, CBS, TV ratings, money! They have the power/leverage and always will. They know it and so does everyone else.

The Big Six conferences could, at any time, break away and play their own "BCS-type" championship in hoops if they wanted to (just like football)...........in any format they choose (and not affiliated with the NCAA). And if they did, just like football, the major networks would televise it, the advertisers would be right there funding/sponsoring it, and the majority of the country would watch it and care about it. It would make TONS of money and they'd only have to split the proceeds amongst themselves.

Bob Huggins and many power conference coaches/administrators are already calling for a 1-A, 1-AA classification for hoops (with separate tourneys for each) and they have been for years.

One day it just might happen................just like football.

The NCAA desperately does NOT want this to happen because the NCAA tourney revenue funds pretty much their entire operation..............as a result, the NCAA is very much beholden to CBS/ESPN/Power 6 conferences. The NCAA wants the tourney to expand (more $$, locked in for perhaps up to 14 yrs). It's called "job security" for the NCAA administrators............a steady stream of easy cash for 14 yrs.

The VCUs, Gonzagas, Butlers, and Cornells of the world are nothing without the big boys and the NCAA stage.
 
3 out of the final 4 will be from BCS conferences and the champion will almost certainly be one of those three. There were more upsets from the mids this year but it's been a wacky basketball season - - there's really no great team out there. Cornell had a run, as did Northern Iowa. ODU and Murray St. won a single game and Butler (who has been ranked all year and was a 5 seed) made the Final 4, but a BCS team will still win the championship. Having watched Baylor play I still can't figure out how they are winning these games. They don't appear very talented/athletic when you watch them. Gotta be coaching and disciplined ball.
 
MozingoWasFilthy said:
The VCUs, Gonzagas, Butlers, and Cornells of the world are nothing without the big boys and the NCAA stage.

You are exactly right. We diss on the big schools, but they are the main reason the tournament is watchable. How'd you like to market a Cornell -vs- N. Iowa national championship game in basketball? Schools need to work their way to respect on the national stage (ala Gonzaga, Butler).
 
Rambunctious said:
3 out of the final 4 will be from BCS conferences and the champion will almost certainly be one of those three.
...like Duke...who you have winning it in the bracket which you are now #1? (and who I had winning it all until a Kentucky Alum coworker of mine convinced me otherwise :evil: )??? LOL
 
But you guys miss the point. This is not all or nothing. The non-bigs could vote together to get some tweaks to the system and it would be a better system.

How about blinding the committee? Make them remove the names from the teams and just put the actual numbers up when making comparisons? Sure, most could figure out who some teams were, but would they really know the difference between the 50-100 teams? And that is exactly where the problem is, the teams that are not slam-dunks to get in. By blinding them to the name of the team, they could actually evaluate each based upon whatever criteria they wanted, and it would be a fairer system. This is a change that the non-bigs could get voted in, and how could anyone make an argument against it? Who would vote against "a fair system"?

Or vote to remove the entire human element from the system. They do it for football, how could they argue that it would not be fair for basketball? Just have the NCAA members decided on 15 or 20 elements, assign a weight to each element, and pick at-large candidates by computer. Then EVERYBODY would know where they stand. Everybody could adjust their schedule based upon the selected criteria, and the best teams would be in the tournament. If conference affiliation was part of it, so be it. But there would be a lot of other elements that a team/coach could use to overcome such advantages. And again, the BCS schools do this for football, how could they EVER say that it is not fair? The computer picks the BCS teams based upon how good each team does on the field. So come up with 20 elements and let the best teams play.

Either of the above would not diminish the NCAA tournament. In fact, the best teams would still tend to win. No matter how you pick them, that is what will happen 99% of the time. But the system would be fairer.

If the Top 6 conferences pulled out of the NCAA they would have a decent product. But what drives March Madness is the fact that a lot more teams (and thus fans, and just sheer numbers say a lot of fans) watch because their non-Top 6 teams are playing. If you do that, then the non-Top 6 teams should just refuse to play them at all and they can change the name to the NBA college development league. It would not work. There are just too many fans out there from the non-Top 6 teams. Would it go on? Sure, but if the other 250 schools went to ESPN and offered to team up to compete with CBS and the new NBACDL, ESPN would jump at it. And my guess is that it would work. A lot of college basketball fans don't watch the NBA. Why would they watch the NBACDL? Especially if the other teams refused to play them and all you had all year was the same teams beating up on each other? Do you really think CBS would be willing to pay $25 Billion for a 15 year contract for March Blandness? Because without the thrill of the upset, that is exactly what it would be.

Wait for the ratings to come in for this year. My guess is that all the upsets have lead to better ratings. That is what drives the networks.

So rather than drastic changes, why not just come up with a fair selection system, one that treats EVERY TEAM from EVER CONFERENCE the same. Seems pretty simple to me.
 
Rambunctious said:
MozingoWasFilthy said:
The VCUs, Gonzagas, Butlers, and Cornells of the world are nothing without the big boys and the NCAA stage.

You are exactly right. We diss on the big schools, but they are the main reason the tournament is watchable. How'd you like to market a Cornell -vs- N. Iowa national championship game in basketball? Schools need to work their way to respect on the national stage (ala Gonzaga, Butler).

Sounds like the CBI Invitational. And we all know how well attendance to VCU homes games has been for that tournament. The big 6 conferences do not need the other schools. We are nothing more than a first and second round entertainment factor for the NCAA's. Get used to it.

During the regular season they pay us good money to play them at their house with no return game. We're like prostitutes to them. And then when we try to put ourselves on our own national stage during Bracketbuster weekend, look at what that has turned in to. We are what we are.
 
Wolfpack Ram said:
Rambunctious said:
MozingoWasFilthy said:
The VCUs, Gonzagas, Butlers, and Cornells of the world are nothing without the big boys and the NCAA stage.

You are exactly right. We diss on the big schools, but they are the main reason the tournament is watchable. How'd you like to market a Cornell -vs- N. Iowa national championship game in basketball? Schools need to work their way to respect on the national stage (ala Gonzaga, Butler).

Sounds like the CBI Invitational. And we all know how well attendance to VCU homes games has been for that tournament. The big 6 conferences do not need the other schools. We are nothing more than a first and second round entertainment factor for the NCAA's. Get used to it.

During the regular season they pay us good money to play them at their house with no return game. We're like prostitutes to them. And then when we try to put ourselves on our own national stage during Bracketbuster weekend, look at what that has turned in to. We are what we are.

1. The NCAA tournament is successful because people watch and that gets advertisers to buy ads.

2. If you only include teams from the top 6 conferences, then you eliminate a lot of potential viewers.

3. You eliminate viewers, then the advertisers will be less likely to advertise.

4. See #1.

Improve, not destroy.
 
Right Rick. I watch for the Butlers and the nonpriv-6. Could care less about a Kansas,Kentucky,Duke final.
 
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