Have the Rams' wins vindicated their inclusion?

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Q: The VCU Rams were a popular example used in criticisms of the field selection. Have the Rams' wins vindicated their inclusion?

Bilas: VCU didn't need to vindicate anything. Arguments and cases for selection are separate from winning once the tournament begins. If VCU had lost, it wouldn't have made the case against VCU's inclusion correct, and VCU's wins don't vindicate anyone. It doesn't work that way. Similarly, the UAB Blazers' loss did not make the case against UAB's selection a winning argument. To take the vindication argument to its logical extreme would be to suggest that Pittsburgh didn't deserve to be in the field this year, and Kansas didn't deserve to be in the field last year. That would be a silly argument. The discussion about selection and snubs is based upon the season and is for Selection Sunday only. Tournament performance should not enter into it.

Gottlieb: No and yes. VCU has proved the point that in a one-game scenario, on a neutral site, mid-majors can compete, but that does not somehow prove they should have been in. The arguments are different. Take the Tennessee Volunteers. They were a 9-seed that was beaten by 30 in their first game; are they suddenly now considered a bad pick by the committee?

Lunardi: I have never been a believer in justifying NCAA team selections based on after-the-fact performance. In arguing against a team on Selection Sunday, no one is saying that team can't win in the postseason. What we're typically saying is that said team isn't as strong as others under consideration. I maintain that was the case with both VCU and UAB based on all information available at the time.

LAME! :evil:
 
It doesn't matter. We are in the Sweet 16 and does not matter how we got there. They are just talking heads. It's just a few guys with opinions. Not sure why they are so called experts because they don't say anything that worth while and instead just spew opinions to get people riled up. It played a part in motivating our team, so I will take that but other than that I don't really care. Palm, who is very reliable had us in the whole time if that means anything. There will always be arguments, but the fact is we are where we are and there is nothing they can do about it. I believe we deserved to be in and we are playing great basketball. Go Rams!
 
We proved everything and these guys can suck it.

We belong. We believe. We are VCU!
 
92VCUpikapp said:
We proved everything and these guys can suck it.

We belong. We believe. We are VCU!

You said better than I! :D Go Rams! We believe!
 
Well, I actually believe that there may be a point to be made regarding the differences between performing well after-the-fact and justifying the initial inclusion of a...

Oh, f*ck it.

SUCK IT ESPN! GO RAMS!!!
 
Sometimes said:
Well, I actually believe that there may be a point to be made regarding the differences between performing well after-the-fact and justifying the initial inclusion of a...

Oh, f*ck it.

SUCK IT ESPN! GO RAMS!!!

Yes! :D Let's go VCU!
 
those guys are full of crap lol, but no vcu has not vindicated anything. They have proved NOTHING!







extra motivation...
 
Dopes. If Tech would have gotten in and rolled the way we have (thats a big if, because we know they dont have the heart), those ESPN guys would be spouting off that this justifies Tech being in the field.
 
These guys are F**** jokes.

If the ability to perform and compete once your in the tournament doesn't matter...than what was the point of the so called laugh test??????? Or the "they couldn't guard me comment?"

Or what's the point of an eye test then? If its not about the ability to compete then what is it?

To me a laugh test indicates you hammered VCU because you felt they couldn't compete.

Typical commentators trying to back track and cover their ground because they know they were wrong.

Idiots.
 
Have the wins by VCU Vindicated the CAA?

Perhaps the conferecne doesn't get enough credit. Thoses loses down the stretch were hard to take, but give credit to the teams that beat us. The CAA is a tougher league then people think. Several teams should have gotten into the NIT. VCU is representing the CAA very well.

:D
 
What everyone is failing to see here is that this whole discussion has nothing to do with the selection committee and VCU's inclusion. It has EVERYTHING to do with Lunardi and Bilas attempting to salvage what ever credibilty they have among college basketball followers after the tirades and nonsensical statements made by these pundits on selection Sunday and immediately after. They know their reputations are besmirched and they have been made out to be laughing stocks in some cases. Lunardi and Bilas are trying to recoup some sort of respect they assumed they had before they were left with egg all over their face.

By the way has anyone seen one Digger Phelps since he made a total a$$ of himself? These guys should be ashamed of themselves, but they have their "reputations" to uphold. It's what they hang their hats on and garner their paychecks. Personally I feel ESPN as a whole as taken a big back step in the eyes of the people who care about college basketball.
 
these choads just want attention, and they'll do whatever gets it for 'em, including talking out of both sides of their mouths ....beware their praise as well as their scorn, because the chances are, it's all neck-deep in ish

the tourny is not on their network, but they are trying to leach off the product that the NCAA, the teams, and the host networks are providing
 
ViCtorioUs said:
Personally I feel ESPN as a whole as taken a big back step in the eyes of the people who care about college basketball.
I think ESPN has taken big steps back in a lot of sports. It was only a matter of time before college basketball became one.

The thing that gets to me is that they say VCU didn't deserve to be in, yet they never back it up. Why didn't VCU deserve to make it? I know that's been discussed on here, but it still pisses me off. But, RamStrut and others are right, who cares what they say; they have zero credibility as far as I'm concerned.
 
JonBoy said:
The thing that gets to me is that they say VCU didn't deserve to be in, yet they never back it up.

The thing that gets me is that you "used" to call Joey "Jerry," as a form of disrespect. You never backed that up. And now that he is playing his ass off you haven't admitted that you were wrong or apologized for such a blatant form of disrespect.
 
YouveBeenRammed said:
JonBoy said:
The thing that gets to me is that they say VCU didn't deserve to be in, yet they never back it up.

The thing that gets me is that you "used" to call Joey "Jerry," as a form of disrespect. You never backed that up. And now that he is playing his ass off you haven't admitted that you were wrong or apologized for such a blatant form of disrespect.

Good point YBR, that guy has zero credibility as far as I am concerned.
 
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