Hey,VCU coaching staff: You have some things to learn!

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Hey, VCU COACHING STAFF: GUYS, YOU HAVE SOME THINGS TO LEARN!
I love VCU. I support them in every way. I love this team. They have heart. I love this coaching staff. Top to bottom, it’s as good, if not better than any staff we have ever had. They have an aggressive game plan, they recruit hard and what they lack in experience, they make up in dedication and effort. BUT, as I watched in horror yesterday as ODU embarrassed us, scoring 46 pts on us in the paint, I couldn’t help but scream out,WHY AREN’T WE PLAYING ZONE! At least try it. ODU scored a grand total of 13 pts on shots outside the paint. They only made 3 3 pointers! Are our players not talented enough to play zone? Or, is Shaka not experienced enough to realize that we needed to try something different, OR too stubborn. Playing zone is not a sign of weakness! ODU played it to perfection yesterday. This game was the Northeastern game all over again. Bill Coen won that game for them and Blain Taylor won that game for ODU yesterday. If you will remember, NE scored 48pts, all at will on us in the paint, winning 91-80. They both took advantage of our aggressiveness, pulling us out away from the basket, opening the lane for easy penetration or a pass to an open man under the basket. Teams are breaking our press with ease and instead of settling in to a half court offense, they are attacking the basket and catching us in the process, flat footed. We sometimes gamble way too much. We overextend. We (Joey & Brandon) can’t stop guard penetration. We don’t block out well. We don’t rebound well. VCU is ranked #282 in the country in rebounding. OUCH! HEY, You know what usually fixes all of that??? A ZONE DEFENSE!! We were lucky to win at home vs. NE. They shot 53% on us and it took some luck to win it in the end. We were lucky to win at ODU. If you watched that game, you have to admit that we got a ton of fluke rebounds, balls that just seemed to find their way into our hands. Rebounding was the difference maker. It was our day! And yesterday it was ODU’s. 46 ODU rebounds, 19 offensive! We could only come up with 21 total rebounds, 5 on the offensive glass. Something is wrong.
So, what do we do about it? How do we defend better? George Mason is better that ODU. They can go inside and outside. I don’t know that a zone would the answer to holding them in check. I just want to know that coaches are willing to try it, if need be. How do we get better at rebounding? What do we do with Mr. Reddic? One rebound against NE, ZERO yesterday in 10 min.. He looks timid and he plays timid! Get MEAN KID, WE NEED YOU. IT’S TIME TO STEP IT UP. You are 6’9”. Play like it. The same can be said for Mr. Veal and Mr. Haley. You need to get mean as well. Block out and go hard to the glass. Try not to foul, but if you do, please make sure they don’t score the bucket. A soft foul is a wasted foul. And Coach, if your man to man game plan isn’t working, TRY SOMETHING ELSE. ADJUST.
It’s crunch time and we need to be playing our best, our hardest and be S.SMART doing it! GO RAMS!!!!
 
Nice post..........been saying this all season. We are soft. We don't consistently play tough D. We don't board. Our style does not "wreak havoc."

Every time we squeak by a W&M, JMU, Towson, NU, Del, everyone thinks we're gutty, gritty, clutch. No, we're not. We're flawed.

Every time we get worked (UR, ODU, Ga St, NU), everyone thinks it's "just an off night." No, it's not.

The coaching staff has a lot to learn regarding in-game strategy, minutes allocations, matchups, adjustments, controlling/changing tempo, etc! A lot!

Too much "I'm really proud of these guys, the effort, they stuck together in a tough environment" crap after squeaking by 0-15 Towson, Delaware, JMU, and such.

Yesterday, we had it coming to us!!

Our weak schedule (SOS 146) has mislead a lot of folks.
 
Re: Re: Hey,VCU coaching staff: You have some things to lear

Sometimes said:
*yawn* ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz.......

Yeah. Constructive criticism makes me tired too.

Great post by the first two. I think many fans share the same opinion that you both expressed. Unfortunately, not all of them "dare" to express it on this forum after a loss.

This staff is headed in the right direction. It's just taking longer than many fans expected. We'll be fine. Go Rams!
 
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BA 4 the trey said:
This staff is headed in the right direction. It's just taking longer than many fans expected. We'll be fine. Go Rams!

"Longer than many fans expected" = not overnight.

Since when were we immune from having bad games now and again? We have made tremendous strides in the past two seasons.
 
Good question about not playing more zone defense. I, too, would have thought this to be worth more of a try.

My real issue is with our press. I think that we press not because it's works, or because we're facing a large deficit, but because we have less confidence in the matchups that constitute our half court defense.

I know that pressing is a risk/reward scenario, but it doesn't see to be working out that great for us. Teams are routinely making us pay for it (games yesterday and at NU come to mind first). I remember one time yesterday where they broke our press and scored without the ball even hitting the floor.

It frequently appears like all 5 of our guys are taking chances overplaying passing lanes. I would think that we're supposed to have at least one player at the back being more conservative.

The coaches must track the effeciency of our press looks in some sort of +/- fashion. I question whether this data would suggest that we hang our hat on this style of play.

Regarding the bigs, I agree that Reddic needs to not be so soft. I think that the case with Veal is that he's a couple of inches too short (is he even 6'7"?) to be a real force. I thought that D.J. played great yesterday!...just needed to be more aggressive going at the basket on that one shot that he had blocked.
 
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I think our big guys with the exception of Skeen play "soft" because they know if they make one mistake or turnover they get taken out of the game and replaced with our 4 guard offense which puts at a distinct disadvantage on the boards. I imagine it is hard to show what you can do playing so little minutes and feeling like one mistake and you are out. We basically are a guard oriented team that lives and dies with the three ball. I like to see Skeen, Reddic and Veal or Haley in there all at once giving a tired Burgess some rest when he needs it.
 
The reason we don't rebound on defense is because we are too concerned with pushing our transition offensive before we even have the ball. The reason we don't rebound on offense is because no one crashes the boards and boxes out. Plain and simple.

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Re: Re: Hey,VCU coaching staff: You have some things to lear

Sorry, but he lost me when he claimed a zone would help our rebounding.

BA 4 the trey said:
Sometimes said:
*yawn* ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz.......

Yeah. Constructive criticism makes me tired too.

Great post by the first two. I think many fans share the same opinion that you both expressed. Unfortunately, not all of them "dare" to express it on this forum after a loss.

This staff is headed in the right direction. It's just taking longer than many fans expected. We'll be fine. Go Rams!
 
senor ram said:
I think our big guys with the exception of Skeen play "soft" because they know if they make one mistake or turnover they get taken out of the game and replaced with our 4 guard offense which puts at a distinct disadvantage on the boards. I imagine it is hard to show what you can do playing so little minutes and feeling like one mistake and you are out. We basically are a guard oriented team that lives and dies with the three ball. I like to see Skeen, Reddic and Veal or Haley in there all at once giving a tired Burgess some rest when he needs it.

Senor, I don't buy that. Hasn't it been quoted on these boards that Shaka has pointed out the aggressiveness and hustle of Veal to at least one of the young bigs? And Veal has certainly made his share of mistakes without being pulled. I am of the opinion that Coach wants and encourages aggressiveness from the bigs and probably includes that request in his bedtime prayers.
 
Why do you think Veal gets such little playing time? He brings energy and effort, yet rides the pine a lot. I love the fact that he's physical and pushes back when getting position. Not coach-bashing, just curious.
 
i think some are missing the fact that the young guys and veal due to lack of experience and they are making mistakes that show in the defense and defensive lapses.
the older guys saw more time as a result of experience...
against odu our guys beat them to the spots, yesterday odu beat us to the spots and forwhatever reason they outhustled us. we were supposed to hit them first and they had the same message but executed it better than us...
the type of defense we play suits our personnel and I prefer it to odu's and others...

as far as the title of this thread...the coaches know they have plenty to learn
 
RESRam said:
Why do you think Veal gets such little playing time? He brings energy and effort, yet rides the pine a lot. I love the fact that he's physical and pushes back when getting position. Not coach-bashing, just curious.

Probably because he doesn't have much offense and is too short...and the upside potential is greater with Reddic and Haley.

Senior, I think that the bigs are probably getting the time that they deserve. If any of them were really good rebounders, I think we'd see that player getting the most minutes. There have been several games where these guys stat lines reflect a poor ratio of rebounds to minutes played.
 
G-Man said:
RESRam said:
Why do you think Veal gets such little playing time? He brings energy and effort, yet rides the pine a lot. I love the fact that he's physical and pushes back when getting position. Not coach-bashing, just curious.

Probably because he doesn't have much offense and is too short...and the upside potential is greater with Reddic and Haley.

I totally disagree with the too short comment...Nick George with something like 6'6", Troy Godwin was 6'6", TJ Gwynn was 6'6", Burgess is something like 6'7" or so. He simply lacks experience at our game and perhaps level. Very few transfers are dominant players their first year....Even Skeen didn't hit his stride until the last month of the season the first year he played here. Out of Veal, Reddic, and Haley, I think the experience level is Veal (1), Reddic (2), and Haley (3). Perhaps "potential" is different but potential doesn't help us now. We are very young inside, mistake will be made. It is a major reason for our rebounding issues IMO. But the coaches have attempted to rectify this for the future with recruiting 2 big men this past fall....just didn't work out.

Regarding the zone issue. We MUST play inside-out. When Veal, Reddic, and Haley are in the game we must trust them enough to be able to pass to them....even if their marching orders are to pass it back out rather than shoot a lot. That at least pull the opposition in a bit to give our perimeter guys better looks at the basket. Yesterday we were passing around the perimeter at least 5-10 feet outside of the 3 point line because ODU knew we only go to Skeen on the inside.
 
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