How are you feeling right now about the team and program?

Ramaholic said:
One thing VCU has struggled with is conference alignment. We have always been on on the outside looking in. Getting into the Metro was hard. Finding a CAA home after the Metro didnt work out required help from some friends. I dont think we stand a prayer at a Big East invite. We need to make the most of the A10. Yeah things are changing in the college athletic arena. But what hasnt changed are that many of the members of these conferences we want to be in are elitist pricks and view us inferior. F@ck em I say. Make our own way. It will be harder, but that is what it is going to take imo.
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From what I have learned about VCU history it seems like the only time it worked out for us was the move from the CAA to the A10. We nailed the timing on that one and didn't even have to do that weird sit out year that they used to have where you couldn't play in the conference tournaments after you announced you were leaving. Never say never but it certainly seems like we are in the A10 for the foreseeable future.
 
Ramlove81 said:
Exactly, there is a difference between JMU and ODU (and what VCU would be trying to do if we started football). JMU has been playing football for a long time and been very successful at lower levels, as in they won a national championship kind of successful.
And though they have made the playoffs because of an upset in the ACC championship, I don't expect them to come close to going into Autzen Stadium and beat Oregon. Someday they may get there, but they are not there yet.
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I am happy for them and hope they do well in the playoff. Just making it is a tremendous accomplishment for their program. However them making the playoff exposed a flaw in the system for the P4 conference schools. They will make it harder if not impossible for them to do it again in the future. Some of those same problems exist in basketball but not nearly as bad as football. Starting a football program from scratch would be a terrible investment for any college at this point and especially for VCU.
 
Ramaholic said:
I think Ed is job hugging and saying whatever he can to make it look like things are on the upswing at a time when revenue is down in all channels (donations, NCAA rev, season tix...) the Athletic Village was stalled and expenses and inflation are at a record high. He needs some light at the end of the tunnel for fans and admin to see bc of the current fiscal climate the department is in.
I dont blame him for saying that and I would do the exact same thing.
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I think you are likely correct but even if there was any traction for a VCU to the Big East move at some point he would have to downplay it if anything. Can't afford to burn a bridge with the A10 if we swing and miss with the Big East. The bad news is that we only have one other conference option but the good news is that we only have one other conference option. Makes things pretty simple. Wait and see if anything changes in the Big East and make the best of our situation in the A10 until then. I don't worry about it much any more.
 
VCU Finance 2008 said:
From what I have learned about VCU history it seems like the only time it worked out for us was the move from the CAA to the A10. We nailed the timing on that one and didn't even have to do that weird sit out year that they used to have where you couldn't play in the conference tournaments after you announced you were leaving. Never say never but it certainly seems like we are in the A10 for the foreseeable future.
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It also worked out when VCU moved from the Sun Belt to the Metro.
 
Just for fun...current "P5" schools rated lower than VCU on Kenpom (a perspective post)

VCU ranked No.42 on kenpom as of this post

ACC
Wake Forest
Notre Dame
Virginia Tech
California
Syracuse
Stanford
Pitt
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Boston College

Big East
Seton Hall
Providence
Xavier
Marquette
DePaul

Big 10
Washington
Minnesota
Northwestern
Oregon
Maryland
Penn State
Rutgers

Big 12
UCF
Oklahoma State
TCU
Colorado
Arizona St
Kansas State
West Virginia
Cincinatti
Utah

SEC
Texas
Oklahoma
Missouri
Texas A&M
OI Miss
South Carolina
Miss St

38 programs in total including some pretty legit ones with HUGE budgets, not to mention ones coached by three former VCU head coaches. Not bad for a first-year coach taking over a team with a rebuilt roster without our top-SEVEN scorers from last season. Cheers, Phil! Keep building!
 
Natty said:
Just for fun...current "P5" schools rated lower than VCU on Kenpom (a perspective post)

VCU ranked No.42 on kenpom as of this post

ACC
Wake Forest
Notre Dame
Virginia Tech
California
Syracuse
Stanford
Pitt
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Boston College

Big East
Seton Hall
Providence
Xavier
Marquette
DePaul

Big 10
Washington
Minnesota
Northwestern
Oregon
Maryland
Penn State
Rutgers

Big 12
UCF
Oklahoma State
TCU
Colorado
Arizona St
Kansas State
West Virginia
Cincinatti
Utah

SEC
Texas
Oklahoma
Missouri
Texas A&M
OI Miss
South Carolina
Miss St

38 programs in total including some pretty legit ones with HUGE budgets, not to mention ones coached by three former VCU head coaches. Not bad for a first-year coach taking over a team with a rebuilt roster without our top-SEVEN scorers from last season. Cheers, Phil! Keep building!
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Top 30 program
 
I'm wondering if our staff is looking into signing a big bodied center or power forward before the deadline ends. Baylor just added this guy James Nnaji who was drafted #31 in the 2023 NBA draft but hasn't played in the league so he's eligible, immediately, to join the Baylor squad and play this year. Interested to know if our staff is considering similar opportunities.

 
Thirstin4Burston said:
I'm wondering if our staff is looking into signing a big bodied center or power forward before the deadline ends. Baylor just added this guy James Nnaji who was drafted #31 in the 2023 NBA draft but hasn't played in the league so he's eligible, immediately, to join the Baylor squad and play this year. Interested to know if our staff is considering similar opportunities.

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Fermin wasn't making that kind of money at VCU. The checking account is empty until next year.
 
Natty said:
Just for fun...current "P5" schools rated lower than VCU on Kenpom (a perspective post)

VCU ranked No.42 on kenpom as of this post

ACC
Wake Forest
Notre Dame
Virginia Tech
California
Syracuse
Stanford
Pitt
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Boston College

Big East
Seton Hall
Providence
Xavier
Marquette
DePaul

Big 10
Washington
Minnesota
Northwestern
Oregon
Maryland
Penn State
Rutgers

Big 12
UCF
Oklahoma State
TCU
Colorado
Arizona St
Kansas State
West Virginia
Cincinatti
Utah

SEC
Texas
Oklahoma
Missouri
Texas A&M
OI Miss
South Carolina
Miss St

38 programs in total including some pretty legit ones with HUGE budgets, not to mention ones coached by three former VCU head coaches. Not bad for a first-year coach taking over a team with a rebuilt roster without our top-SEVEN scorers from last season. Cheers, Phil! Keep building!
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So much of this is skewed by "Open Season on Q4s." No bag limit apparently. You shoot 'em ... they fall.

The first 100 ranked NET schools (as of Dec. 27) are ... oh my gosh ... 500-9 vs. the easy-to-slay, but well-paid Q4s.

If you figure the average margin of victory is a modest 15, then the mercenary Q4s have lost by something like a combined 7,500 points.

Everyone okay with that? Will we do it again next year, knowing the outcome? Forever?

Somehow both GW and St Bonaventure, both apparently with poor aim, have picked up two of those hard to miss losses.

Locally, VCU has two quality wins (VPI, South Florida) and UR has one (Belmont). By qualify, I mean of equal weight class.

From now on, it really counts .... time to go hunting against teams that can shoot back.
 
A bit worried now.

Would grade Martelli at C+ right now. Nice guy but he seems to lack intensity and the team just doesn't have a great identity right now. The losses to St. Louis and GMU are concerning...winnable games that slip through your hands.
 
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