Props to Morrisar...

[88RAM]

....for that comment about Norwood not interviewing Pastner. That was a serious mistake, one Norwood won't repeat I am sure. I still give Norwood a good grade!

 

[vcubanana]

Shaka is our coach, if you want Pastner, Memphis is accepting plenty of bandwagon fans.

 

[morrisar]

Shaka is our coach, if you want Pastner, Memphis is accepting plenty of bandwagon fans.

I'm proud to say, this "bandwagon" fan stayed till the final buzzer. Why did you leave with 6 minutes to go? Don't say it's because you parked a mile away because I parked at Ukrop's in Carytown.

 

[vcubanana]

Shaka is our coach, if you want Pastner, Memphis is accepting plenty of bandwagon fans.

I'm proud to say, this "bandwagon" fan stayed till the final buzzer. Why did you leave with 6 minutes to go? Don't say it's because you parked a mile away because I parked at Ukrop's in Carytown.

You must have me mistaken with someone else. I was there til the end.

 

[morrisar]

You must have me mistaken with someone else. I was there til the end.

I heard from sources that you left with 6 minutes. I sat in Section 4 so personally I have no clue. Maybe you didn't, but you should stop calling people "bandwagon" fans that don't necessarily agree with everything you do. Personally, I think if Josh Pastner was our head coach right now then we'd be ranked 18th in the nation.

 

[vcubanana]

You must have me mistaken with someone else. I was there til the end.

I heard from sources that you left with 6 minutes. I sat in Section 4 so personally I have no clue.

First of all who did you hear this from because they were mistaken?

Maybe you didn't, but you should stop calling people "bandwagon" fans that don't necessarily agree with everything you do. Personally, I think if Josh Pastner was our head coach right now then we'd be ranked 18th in the nation.

I'm just voicing my opinion like you and everyone else. Josh Pastner wasn't on our list and isn't our coach, he has nothing to do with Virginia Commonwealth University. Shaka is our guy. I was simply saying he's at Memphis, and 88 can feel free to go root for them if he wished, I never once called him out. Andy you're a good guy but I don't get the hostility in the last year. Especially calling me out as a fan. Have a good weekend bud.

 

[fmrick]

Shaka is our coach, if you want Pastner, Memphis is accepting plenty of bandwagon fans.

I'm proud to say, this "bandwagon" fan stayed till the final buzzer. Why did you leave with 6 minutes to go? Don't say it's because you parked a mile away because I parked at Ukrop's in Carytown.

I stayed. Was glad to see some of the new guys getting minutes, even if they did not matter.

As for Pastner, had we hired him when Grant left, we would have been hiring his replacement as soon as he was offered the Memphis job. No telling who we would have gotten then.

Shaka is doing a good job. Let's wait until the season is over before we fire him. I don't think I saw him miss a single shot tonight.

 

[88RAM]

Yeah, I should not be throwing Shaka under the bus so soon. I was just appalled at the way the game went. I still think he can straighten this out but he has a LOT of work to do in all areas. He should start with fundamentals....ok, I'll stop.

 

[vcubanana]

Yeah, I should not be throwing Shaka under the bus so soon. I was just appalled at the way the game went. I still think he can straighten this out but he has a LOT of work to do in all areas. He should start with fundamentals....ok, I'll stop.

We're all disappointed. That's what makes us fans.

 

[4RunningRam]

Shaka is doing a good job. Let's wait until the season is over before we fire him. I don't think I saw him miss a single shot tonight.

And I dont think I saw him utilize the press (marketing term; havoc" )until there were about 10 minutes left in a blowout game.

I also didnt see him ask his point guard to work the ball inside to Skeen more often; nor did I see him bring it to any of his players' attention that they had only three assists to UR's 18 and should pass and distribute the ball more often rather than shoot 3's and attempt low percentage acrobatic shots in the paint.

I didnt see him make quick adjustments; nor did I see him attempt to dictate the style of play but instead deferred to UR's style preference.

And yes; Shaka also didnt miss any jump shots

 

[morrisar]

I stayed. Was glad to see some of the new guys getting minutes, even if they did not matter.

As for Pastner, had we hired him when Grant left, we would have been hiring his replacement as soon as he was offered the Memphis job. No telling who we would have gotten then.

Shaka is doing a good job. Let's wait until the season is over before we fire him. I don't think I saw him miss a single shot tonight.

So you are questioning Shufan's character? He went on the record saying that his friend Josh Pastner wanted the VCU job real bad, did he not?

Also, I'm not sure your argument makes much sense. So when VCU wins, Shaka gets all the credit. When VCU loses though, it's all the players fault? My question to you is... Is the head coach not a paid professional? Is his job not to train, develop, and prepare the players for each and every game? If that is the case, clearly he didn't do his job tonight and I would say that logically he should take the fall for the team and not the players. I'm not sure that recently he's been doing his job to prepare the players seeing that we are a combined 2-2 in our last four games and have been outscored 267-264 in that stretch against teams with an average RPI rank of 167.

 

[4RunningRam]

I stayed. Was glad to see some of the new guys getting minutes, even if they did not matter.

As for Pastner, had we hired him when Grant left, we would have been hiring his replacement as soon as he was offered the Memphis job. No telling who we would have gotten then.

Shaka is doing a good job. Let's wait until the season is over before we fire him. I don't think I saw him miss a single shot tonight.

So you are questioning Shufan's character? He went on the record saying that his friend Josh Pastner wanted the VCU job real bad, did he not?

Also, I'm not sure your argument makes much sense. So when VCU wins, Shaka gets all the credit. When VCU loses though, it's all the players fault? My question to you is... Is the head coach not a paid professional? Is his job not to train, develop, and prepare the players for each and every game? If that is the case, clearly he didn't do his job tonight and I would say that logically he should take the fall for the team and not the players. I'm not sure that recently he's been doing his job to prepare the players seeing that we are a combined 2-2 in our last four games and have been outscored 267-264 in that stretch against teams with an average RPI rank of 167.

You nailed it; when VCU wins...he's given credit for his style, decisions, roster management, play calling, etc. But when VCU loses, he had nothing to do with it; all on the 19 and 20 yr olds he's paid a few hundred thousand dollars to lead and instruct.

 

[Emoney]

Yeah, I should not be throwing Shaka under the bus so soon. I was just appalled at the way the game went. I still think he can straighten this out but he has a LOT of work to do in all areas. He should start with fundamentals....ok, I'll stop.

I am pretty sure the few fans on this board that still buy into the crap that was thrown at us the day of the press conference where the Messiah Shaka Smart was introduced would have a problem with what you have stirred up, but for the common folk that have nothing to lose by calling a spade a spade you are dead on. I do not buy into the company slogan or believe for one second that we have landed the next great in coaching. It is obvious he is in way over his head. I will be there next week hoping for the best, heck it will take more than a coach that flounders the talent that was left for him to keep me from comming to the games, but I am probably less of fan for saying that.

 

[4RunningRam]

I stayed. Was glad to see some of the new guys getting minutes, even if they did not matter.

As for Pastner, had we hired him when Grant left, we would have been hiring his replacement as soon as he was offered the Memphis job. No telling who we would have gotten then.

Shaka is doing a good job. Let's wait until the season is over before we fire him. I don't think I saw him miss a single shot tonight.

So you are questioning Shufan's character? He went on the record saying that his friend Josh Pastner wanted the VCU job real bad, did he not?

Also, I'm not sure your argument makes much sense. So when VCU wins, Shaka gets all the credit. When VCU loses though, it's all the players fault? My question to you is... Is the head coach not a paid professional? Is his job not to train, develop, and prepare the players for each and every game? If that is the case, clearly he didn't do his job tonight and I would say that logically he should take the fall for the team and not the players. I'm not sure that recently he's been doing his job to prepare the players seeing that we are a combined 2-2 in our last four games and have been outscored 267-264 in that stretch against teams with an average RPI rank of 167.

As I mentioned in another thread, those incapable of putting down the kool aid and looking at the program objectively seem to behave this way for one of three reasons.

1) They see Shaka as the engaging, professional, kind man that he is and equate that personal success with professional success
2) They truly believe that with enough of a groundswell of blind love and loyalty, we'll never again watch a VCU coach leave us for a bigger opportunity
3) They've seen others cut-off from some within the program and become persona-no-grate for no other reason than they hold different basketball opinion, and don't want to be "on the outs" with this group asa result

Guess what? Players on our favorite teams make mistakes and do dumb things, the coach or manager of our favorite team missteps; and even our children make mistakes sometimes- no one is immune from criticism, no should they be.

I have a favorite team in another sport that I cheer for even more than I do VCU, yet I'll be the first to say when one of the players on that team screws up or isnt doing their job. It's all part of being a fan, and being critical makes you no less of a fan than being blindly positive. Fans come in all forms; being a "homer" isnt that only way to root for a team.

 

[4RunningRam]

Yeah, I should not be throwing Shaka under the bus so soon. I was just appalled at the way the game went. I still think he can straighten this out but he has a LOT of work to do in all areas. He should start with fundamentals....ok, I'll stop.

I am pretty sure the few fans on this board that still buy into the crap that was thrown at us the day of the press conference where the Messiah Shaka Smart was introduced would have a problem with what you have stirred up, but for the common folk that have nothing to lose by calling a spade a spade you are dead on. I do not buy into the company slogan or believe for one second that we have landed the next great in coaching. It is obvious he is in way over his head. I will be there next week hoping for the best, heck it will take more than a coach that flounders the talent that was left for him to keep me from comming to the games, but I am probably less of fan for saying that.

No, you're a fan for caring enough to have a pasionate opinion, either way. But yes, you'll prob never be spoken to by a few of of folks with offices at the Stu