Quick Thought: ODU's attendance- basketball vs football

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So ODU's average basketball attendance last year 6048. The highest in the CAA. I wonder though if having football the last couple of months will hurt their attendance. I mean students and alumni have been treated to the sport they have wanted in that area for a long time. The football season for them isn't even over yet either. You have to think Norwood will be watching ODU's basketball attendance carefully this year. Since Rao seems interested in a football team Norwood will no doubt keep him up to speed. I'm sure if Norwood sees a drastic drop in attendance for ODU b ball he'll advise Rao to hold off on football ideas.
 
I think their Basketball attendance will rise this year..football seems to really have spread Monarch fever through the community. So some football only fans that started donating to the program might just decide to get Bball tickets.

Also you have the advantage of being able to advertise your basketball season to 20k Monarch fans for free at every football game
 
I've been to three ODU football games and they push basketball hard during the timeouts with some pretty cool commercials on the big screen/scoreboard. I bet their basketball attendance goes up.

(Before anyone throws stones, I'm from Norfolk and my dad is an ODU alumnus with four season tickets)

Moreover, the quality of their football is horrible don’t let their record fool you.
 
Red_I_Ram said:
I've been to three ODU football games and they push basketball hard during the timeouts with some pretty cool commercials on the big screen/scoreboard. I bet their basketball attendance goes up.

(Before anyone throws stones, I'm from Norfolk and my dad is an ODU alumnus with four season tickets)

Moreover, the quality of their football is horrible don’t let their record fool you.


I'd expect the quality to be bad its their first year lol but I think they will be a major player in a couple of years. Leaving us in the dust lol..
 
Their attendance was not tops in the CAA:

George Mason: 6,295 per game
VCU: 6,106 per game
ODU: 6,048 per game

They were third. I expect it to improve with football at ODU though. I'm not a football fan, so I don't really care...but just thought someone should set the record straight with attendance.
 
districtballer said:
Their attendance was not tops in the CAA:

George Mason: 6,295 per game
VCU: 6,106 per game
ODU: 6,048 per game

They were third. I expect it to improve with football at ODU though. I'm not a football fan, so I don't really care...but just thought someone should set the record straight with attendance.


I think their attendance got watered down in CIT tournament play but I do believe they led the CAA in regular season attendance.
 
Mercury said:
I think their Basketball attendance will rise this year..football seems to really have spread Monarch fever through the community. So some football only fans that started donating to the program might just decide to get Bball tickets.

Also you have the advantage of being able to advertise your basketball season to 20k Monarch fans for free at every football game
I agree with Merc on this one. I think they had close to 7,000 show up for their exhibition game which was held in the evening the same day as a football game, so that shows that the fans are not ready to go home just because they have already seen a football game. Of course if their attendance does rise this year you could also argue that it is due to the high expectations of the team. It will probably be a combination of both if they live up to the preseason expectations and start off strong.
 
Mercury said:
I think their attendance got watered down in CIT tournament play but I do believe they led the CAA in regular season attendance.

You mean no one showed up to see them play those great teams in that very prestigious tournament? Shocking.
 
RRR said:
You have to think Norwood will be watching ODU's basketball attendance carefully this year. Since Rao seems interested in a football team Norwood will no doubt keep him up to speed. I'm sure if Norwood sees a drastic drop in attendance for ODU b ball he'll advise Rao to hold off on football ideas.

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh :shock: :? :shock: :? :| :| :geek:
 
The initial popularity of ODU football, and any effect it has on basketball attendance there in the near term, should not be used as a measuring stick for anything strategic or longer-term... there, here (at VCU), or anywhere else.

For one thing, ODU has always had a more jockish (or is it jock itch?) orientation as a whole than VCU (want to be a doctor? go to VCU, want to be a heath/PE teacher? go to ODU). That isn't necessarily the result of greater athletic successes, but more a matter of student culture over the decades. The difference isn't huge, but it may be big enough to reach an athletics-wide enthusiasm tipping point. There are many similarities between us and ODU, but there are also significant differences.

Also, the initial popularity of football at ODU may be, at least in part, a result of pent up demand. They had no access to the product of 'narch-brand football for a long time. Then, after a long absence, there are several years of build up and anticipation. How much of the initial popularity is a result of that opening rush of built up enthusiasm is hard to say while we're still in the midst of it. How things play out over the next 4 to 10 years will be far more instructive than a razor thin sample in their opening year. As people get used to having football there, will popularity grow and feed on itself in a sustainable way. or will some/many/any start to take it for granted and will enthusiasm wane? Time will tell. I would guess that they'll have better than even luck with it because of the school culture there, and in Tidewater generally. Of course on the field success will also play a major role, because if they keep posting winning records, it will be easier for them to keep the popularity momentum rolling. But if they slide into mediocre/middling results on the field once they stop playing the Washington Generals every week, then we'll be better able to judge if they are the Chicago Cubs, or the Florida Marlins where it comes to fan loyalty under adversity.

Likewise, the impact of 'narch football on 'narch basketball will take a longer time to determine than one or two years. Will the initial burst of enthusiasm lead to a sustainable synergy between the programs, or will attention (not to mention resources) become divided over time? Again, given the way they've gotten things started, and given the school/local culture, I'd say that they have a decent shot at it. But then again, I see other schools with fairly strong athletic culture, like JMU and Delaware, and I consider how they've been at it a much longer time, and yet they have had complete failures of synergy between programs.

It's way too early to know how successful their football program will be over time, as well as how that eventual success, failure, or stasis will effect their other athletic programs. Additionally, differences between the schools/student bodies/alumni base(as well as the timing vis a vie the economic environment) complicate using their results to project what ours might be.
 
david coxxx said:
RRR said:
You have to think Norwood will be watching ODU's basketball attendance carefully this year. Since Rao seems interested in a football team Norwood will no doubt keep him up to speed. I'm sure if Norwood sees a drastic drop in attendance for ODU b ball he'll advise Rao to hold off on football ideas.

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh :shock: :? :shock: :? :| :| :geek:


At least the boy is thinking prior to posting now.... :oops:
 
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