Recruiting Competiton Left

Not saying anything, just saying... :D

mwalvlior said:
Mistachill said:
Food for thought...we've lost at least one scholarship prior to or during each season for the past six years:

2009 - Franck Ndongo, Lance Kearse
2008 - Myk Brown
2007 - Eric Davis, Sam Faulk
2006 - Renardo Dixon
2005 - Deonte Smith
2004 - Drew Johnson

'chill is that ur way of saying larry is leaving and we have 1 or larry and X are leaving and we have 2?
 
Mistachill said:
Not saying anything, just saying... :D

mwalvlior said:
Mistachill said:
Food for thought...we've lost at least one scholarship prior to or during each season for the past six years:

2009 - Franck Ndongo, Lance Kearse
2008 - Myk Brown
2007 - Eric Davis, Sam Faulk
2006 - Renardo Dixon
2005 - Deonte Smith
2004 - Drew Johnson

'chill is that ur way of saying larry is leaving and we have 1 or larry and X are leaving and we have 2?
I get the feeling someone knows something that I don't lol
 
i feel you chill. youre not saying larry, youre saying it could be anyone going to anywhere.
 
Actually DB there's only one other CAA team that has a current player in the NBA and that's NU with JJB. So Coach Coen can say a player can go from NU to the NBA(plus it's not like NU hasn't had real talented kids go to the NBA in the past such as the late great Reggie Lewis)
 
redsoxn2004 said:
Actually DB there's only one other CAA team that has a current player in the NBA and that's NU with JJB. So Coach Coen can say a player can go from NU to the NBA(plus it's not like NU hasn't had real talented kids go to the NBA in the past such as the late great Reggie Lewis)

I stand corrected. You're right. I guess I should say that can get drafted from the CAA. People might hold JJB not getting drafted due to playing in a weaker league. At VCU you can argue that we've had 2 first round draft picks in successive years. A bit different than carving your own way out as a free agent. That said Barea is a super player and we can only hope that Eric Maynor carves out his niche in the NBA the way Jose has. Reggie Lewis as great as he was, that's too long ago to be relevant to kids today. It's the same as Coach Smart saying, "hey we had this guy named Gerald Henderson who had a 13 year NBA career and won 4 NBA championships...What was that? That's right...the dad of the Gerald Henderson who played at Duke." haha not as much of an effect as saying Eric Maynor got drafted this year, Larry is on the radar to be drafted next year.
 
r4m said:
i feel you chill. youre not saying larry, youre saying it could be anyone going to anywhere.

Right, but JJB's play in the CAA got him a tryout in summer leagues. It was his work there that impressed enough to get him a spot on a roster. Both Eric and Larry will have proven that there is a definite path from a CAA squad to a first round draft pick.
 
For the record I have no inside info so please don't think I'm hinting at anything. I'm just saying history shows SOMETHING seems to happen every year - transfers, grades, health, knuckleheads...something. So chances are it will all work itself out in the end.
 
Well not to quibble with ya on it DB but Lewis's name still holds a lot of sway in the new england area particularly in boston. But then again the Northeast(Particularly north of NY heading into new england area) doesn't have steller recruits the way many of the areas here in the south do.

As to the schollies, It'll work itself out it almost always does. Great Job, landing Rico BTW!
 
redsoxn2004 said:
Well not to quibble with ya on it DB but Lewis's name still holds a lot of sway in the new england area particularly in boston. But then again the Northeast(Particularly north of NY heading into new england area) doesn't have steller recruits the way many of the areas here in the south do.

As to the schollies, It'll work itself out it almost always does. Great Job, landing Rico BTW!

Oh I bet. :) The former Celtics captain was a great one. I just don't know if the young guys we are recruiting nowadays have as much appreciation for history. Eric Maynor and Larry Sanders are very current, recognizable from the NCAA's etc. Thanks for the congrats, you're class all the way! Good luck with this year, remember what I said about Alwayne Bigby! He's gonna be darn good.
 
Mistachill said:
knuckleheads....
Davis... (anyone remember that random DUB chant @ W&M?!)
Dixon... (no slim! no slim! NO SLIM!!! ...*doink* ....ugh! (consequently, we always cringed when MAnderson went up for a three, out of habit, even though MA was much more proficient at the long bomb))
Kearse... (I don't have words for this one... well, other than these)
:lol:
 
districtballer said:
This is what happens when you're program grows the way VCU's is. No other CAA team has to deal with this issue. All the big-time schools (UNC, Duke, Kansas, UCLA etc.) deal with this stuff every year and somehow they have the full complement of scholarships when the time comes. It's a problem every other team in the CAA would love to have, whether they admit it or not. This is all apart of evolving into a great basketball program on the national stage.

While you are certainly correct about the big-time programs -- the latest being Kentucky -- playing the scholarship game to keep landing the players they want, I think VCU needs to tread more carefully because we are not yet one of those big-time traditional powers. Not saying it's right or not, but a lot of times actions that are excused "because they're Carolina" or "because they're Kansas" would be not looked at so fondly if the school in question is a less than household name.

I understand that Shaka wants to go to battle with players he chose -- as Bill Parcells once said, "If you want me to cook, let me buy the groceries" -- but he also needs to take a long-range view of the recruiting process if he plans to stay at VCU for more than a quickie.

If VCU under Smart gets to be known as a program that runs off players, it just opens up another door for the schools we recruit against to go negative against us. We don't need AAU and high school coaches wondering if they're going to send one of their kids to Richmond and see them come back a couple years later after being "encouraged" to leave.

And DB, lest you think this isn't an issue for other CAA programs, don't kid yourself. I know for a fact there's one player on the Mason roster that has been recruited over and could easily be moved out of the way to allow for pursuit of another 2010 big man, but Larranaga won't do it b/c he's looking at the big picture.
 
AG_fan said:
While you are certainly correct about the big-time programs -- the latest being Kentucky -- playing the scholarship game to keep landing the players they want, I think VCU needs to tread more carefully because we are not yet one of those big-time traditional powers. Not saying it's right or not, but a lot of times actions that are excused "because they're Carolina" or "because they're Kansas" would be not looked at so fondly if the school in question is a less than household name.

I understand that Shaka wants to go to battle with players he chose -- as Bill Parcells once said, "If you want me to cook, let me buy the groceries" -- but he also needs to take a long-range view of the recruiting process if he plans to stay at VCU for more than a quickie.

If VCU under Smart gets to be known as a program that runs off players, it just opens up another door for the schools we recruit against to go negative against us. We don't need AAU and high school coaches wondering if they're going to send one of their kids to Richmond and see them come back a couple years later after being "encouraged" to leave.

And DB, lest you think this isn't an issue for other CAA programs, don't kid yourself. I know for a fact there's one player on the Mason roster that has been recruited over and could easily be moved out of the way to allow for pursuit of another 2010 big man, but Larranaga won't do it b/c he's looking at the big picture.

Agreed..its one thing if the kid looks out and decides he wants to leave on his own but I don't think Smart should be running players off. Especially when he probably won't be around to see Grayson, Theus or Daniels graduate.
 
Just so we're clear and we're on the same page, if a kid proves to be a knucklehead its OK move him out in favor of a player who is a better fit, right? We're only talking about kids who are sound academically, good citizens, just not that good on the court.

And its OK to put the cards on the table and have a honest discussion with a kid to let him know he's unlikely to get playing time and he's better off making a move, but its his call. If he decides he still wants to stay you will let him, though I'm not sure why I would stay some place I'm not really wanted.

AG_fan said:
And DB, lest you think this isn't an issue for other CAA programs, don't kid yourself. I know for a fact there's one player on the Mason roster that has been recruited over and could easily be moved out of the way to allow for pursuit of another 2010 big man, but Larranaga won't do it b/c he's looking at the big picture.
 
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