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RAMification

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It never ceases to amaze me how fluid recruiting rankings are. We are seeing empirical evidence of that again this very week as the various services up-date their player rankings.

In the good old days you basically had ONE national recruiting guru, that being Howard Garfinkel. He ran the Five-Star camps and recruiting service and you literally dare not sign a kid unless you got Garfinkels blessing. He was the God-Father of basketball at the prep level. I will never forget that Garfinkel proclaimed the best recruited backcourt in the nation at any level, was the Lamb, Duncan, Silva trio going to VCU. I still have the article somewhere. After Howard the God-Father became Bob Gibbons with his All-Star Sports reports out of Lenoir, NC. Bob was an insurance guy as his main occupation. I used to talk to him about recruiting often, particularly as it related to VCU. He was and is a great guy.

It was the internet that began the mass production and distribution of recruiting data and the ever changeable rankings. Kids could be participating in a week-end AAU or other tournament, Blow-Up(sort of like Theus), and suddenly their recognition, rankings etc. change and everyone gets after them. Remember Jonathan Mandeldove, a VCU commit who blows up one week-end, decommits and signs on with Jim Calhoun and UCONN.

Along these lines the Mason people may be crying a little tonight because in the newly released rankings, Mason only has ONE 3-Star player, that being Sherrod Wright who drops to the #45 2-Guard in the country. No big deal, but they have absolutely blown their class out of proportion.

With respect to VCU, as DB noted earlier, Ben stays a 3-Star, but drops to #28, and Darius is upgraded to a 2-Star which was inevitable(he's that good). Darius also now get's a #89 ranking by ESPN, as well as being rated the #20 PG in the class. This young man really blew-up late, and from what Tim Pearrell tells me was the MVP in some All-Star game where he supposedly scored in the 30's. All of this explains his rise, but the overall fluidity is amazing!
 
Great post. Gosh, I'm getting used to saying that a lot now. It's a good feeling! :)

Shows how much harder it is for mids to recruit talent given how coverage of high schoolers has progressed so much over the last several years. There was a great article interviewing Jeff Capel about how recruiting at the mid-major level is so hard. He was able to snag Maynor, hoping all the while he wouldn't be noticed by high-majors during AAU tournaments and Camps. On the flip side Luc Mbah Moute who Capel was recruiting real hard, has a good showing and bam! just like that he's off VCU's board and going to UCLA. Really goes to show how remarkable it is for our coaches to be mining the kind of talent they have been. :)
 
Some what related article: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/recrui ... inginsider

George Mason fans, but the Patriots appear to have gotten quite a recruit in guard Sherrod Wright, a senior from Mount Vernon, N.Y., who gives Mason a six-player recruiting class. Credit Mason's Final Four run and the success of the Patriots and CAA member Virginia Commonwealth for helping land Wright, who will be one of the Patriots' most highly-rated recruits ever. (Though Patriot fans, more than anyone, need not be reminded that recruiting rankings mean little.)

Love this quote:

"The big schools is where you get noticed," Wright said. "But the tournament is where you get known."
 
Thanks! I agree, historically the coaches we've had at VCU have done a great job of identifying, evaluating, and then closing on their targets. Along the way we've secured a few game changers like Kendrick Warren who was a consensus top 5 national recruit.

Of interest, well before the Lamb, Duncan, Silva signings, Coach Noe signed not one but two 5-Star recruits out of NYC, Dave Edwards and Howie Robertson(sp).

I think in the world of recruiting you have to set your sights on the best available talent out there.
 
You guys have been playing this game of watching the VCU recruits a lot longer than I have. And I'm just getting into checking on these guys as a fun thing to do between seasons.

It occurs to me that our coaches have to develop the same in-house competency with recruiting that we do with the Villa 7 for assessing talent "under the radar", a-la Eric. (Of course, we're mining first assistants, and the BCS schools are largely taking proven coaches, so we've got a bit of an advantage there for the time being.) But with players, the recruiting services don't assess character, work ethic, family background, etc. of players so much as they do direct basketball skills and physical talent.

I'll give it to coach Grant, he brought in a great bunch of guys. I'm thinking he was just as surprised about Kearse as anybody. Larry is quite a story, and is a nice gift from Grant to us. Undeveloped, huge potential, and then, that potential being realized as he waves goodbye. Kinda like Capel gave us with Eric, although I guess most of the potential was realized under Grant.

If any of you ever have knowledge of a venue where we can watch any of our local recruits (Theus?) play during summer, I would appreciate knowing about it so I can maybe arrange to check them out in person.
 
RAMification said:
Thanks! I agree, historically the coaches we've had at VCU have done a great job of identifying, evaluating, and then closing on their targets. Along the way we've secured a few game changers like Kendrick Warren who was a consensus top 5 national recruit.

Of interest, well before the Lamb, Duncan, Silva signings, Coach Noe signed not one but two 5-Star recruits out of NYC, Dave Edwards and Howie Robertson(sp).

I think in the world of recruiting you have to set your sights on the best available talent out there.

The coaches didn't have to evaluate Kendrick very much. Kendrick wanted to stay close to home unlike everyone today. Hopefully Trey Davis will come here. I can talk him into it... we went to middle school together!!!! :lol:
 
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