Team apparel in practice/travel?

[AlienAiden]

This is the most hilarious, asinine post I've seen in sometime.

Where was this post last year? you know when we were the best team in the A10? When we lost to teams like Seton Hall, Nevada, when we lost to Dayton at home on Senior day among other games that we might've started off flat? Where was this post last year? Or how bout the year before that under Odom's first year?

You act like this is the first year that some players wear warm up gear, some don't. Some players wear white shoes, some wear black shoes, some wear gold shoes, some wear other colors.... WHO THE F**K CARES?!?!

It has 0 affect on the game itself. ZERO, ZILCH, NADA, ZIP.

If there's chemistry issues.... it's not because of what you wear during warmups, or what you wear traveling from one place to another. And just dressing alike.... isn't going to all of a sudden cure any chemistry issues, or slow starts.... if you honestly believe that... you need a serious wake up call.

As far as Dress Expectations... Every "job" is different. Some jobs have a stricter dress code than others. And it changes from boss to boss, job to job. My current job.... my previous boss (before he left and got a better paying job).... had no real dress code. Obviously he didn't want us coming in wearing baggy clothes, or clothes with holes all over em, or come in wearing some offensive material or whatever..... but he didn't care if one day I came in wearing my VCU shirt & some sweatpants.... and guess what.... neither did his higher ups, nor did any of the other staff, or even the students or other people in the public that I interacted with on a daily basis.

Never had 1 complaint, and as a matter of fact I actually got several emails, phone calls from my boss & other faculty giving me compliments about my job performance & how students & other faculty went to them & told them how nice, and helpful I was with them.

ZERO COMPLAINTS ABOUT MY ATTIRE WHATSOEVER.

Now... my new boss is a little bit stricter.... and hey, if that's what she expects.... well I got 2 choices, follow her dress code, or go find a new job.


One of my previous jobs.... we all had uniforms we had to wear. Did it boost morale, or help the chemistry among co-workers? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Matter of fact there was more drama at that job.... and it had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with what any of us were wearing.

I have an old WWBT winter raincoat that is phenomenally structured. I will always rep it. Ha!

 

[mrgeode]

Hadn’t heard that take before.

Sam Gilbert paid for the 30-0 and bankrolled all their championships. The undefeated season was the first year he was known to have a high degree of contact with the team and recruits as a "super booster" IIRC. I won't deny Wooden was a good coach and probably overall a good guy, but the hagiography is ridiculous, especially when you know he wasn't competing on a level playing field - his legacy should be a lot more "nice John Calipari" than "Sage of Westwood".

The anal retentive bit is supposition on my part, but I feel pretty good about it if he was enough of a pedant to tell people what to do with their socks.

 

[artRAMinMN]

I think the hyperbolic negative reactions to the OP are just silly.

Is a lack of sartorial cohesion a root cause of problems? Almost certainly not, but it *might* be a bit of a symptom and contributing complication. When concepts like team and school identity and allegiance are already being stretched close to ripping point by wild west free agency, even superficial image stuff can matter. School spirit and too-cool-for-school don't mix.

 

[ramshoops05]

I think we should be more worried about how crappy our defense is, and how we cannot blow out the bottom feeders in our league but expect to be in the Dance, rather than what someone wears to travel in or participate in a walk through

Plus, please don't have the coaches wear sport coats etc. They look like bank tellers not basketball coaches. That look is so outdated

PS. I am not new, my old login was corrupt, and I had to make a new account.

 

[AlienAiden]

I think we should be more worried about how crappy our defense is, and how we cannot blow out the bottom feeders in our league but expect to be in the Dance, rather than what someone wears to travel in or participate in a walk through

Plus, please don't have the coaches wear sport coats etc. They look like bank tellers not basketball coaches. That look is so outdated

PS. I am not new, my old login was corrupt, and I had to make a new account.

I just want to be awake at the games. The team needs to work on that and we will be fine.

 

[Ramaholic]

This is the most hilarious, asinine post I've seen in sometime.

Where was this post last year? you know when we were the best team in the A10? When we lost to teams like Seton Hall, Nevada, when we lost to Dayton at home on Senior day among other games that we might've started off flat? Where was this post last year? Or how bout the year before that under Odom's first year?

You act like this is the first year that some players wear warm up gear, some don't. Some players wear white shoes, some wear black shoes, some wear gold shoes, some wear other colors.... WHO THE F**K CARES?!?!

It has 0 affect on the game itself. ZERO, ZILCH, NADA, ZIP.

If there's chemistry issues.... it's not because of what you wear during warmups, or what you wear traveling from one place to another. And just dressing alike.... isn't going to all of a sudden cure any chemistry issues, or slow starts.... if you honestly believe that... you need a serious wake up call.

As far as Dress Expectations... Every "job" is different. Some jobs have a stricter dress code than others. And it changes from boss to boss, job to job. My current job.... my previous boss (before he left and got a better paying job).... had no real dress code. Obviously he didn't want us coming in wearing baggy clothes, or clothes with holes all over em, or come in wearing some offensive material or whatever..... but he didn't care if one day I came in wearing my VCU shirt & some sweatpants.... and guess what.... neither did his higher ups, nor did any of the other staff, or even the students or other people in the public that I interacted with on a daily basis.

Never had 1 complaint, and as a matter of fact I actually got several emails, phone calls from my boss & other faculty giving me compliments about my job performance & how students & other faculty went to them & told them how nice, and helpful I was with them.

ZERO COMPLAINTS ABOUT MY ATTIRE WHATSOEVER.

Now... my new boss is a little bit stricter.... and hey, if that's what she expects.... well I got 2 choices, follow her dress code, or go find a new job.


One of my previous jobs.... we all had uniforms we had to wear. Did it boost morale, or help the chemistry among co-workers? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Matter of fact there was more drama at that job.... and it had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with what any of us were wearing.

I get what you are saying about game day results. I agree mostly with your points.
Comparing your job as an office worker and an MBB collegiate player making $400k isn't a good comparison. The players are paid to rep the school. I gotta say, if you were making $400k from an organization and your main job was to represent that organization to the public, then any pic that org releases of you performing should have you in the org's gear. And if you are part of a team, and the org is supplying top quality team gear to wear (for free), you should wear the product.

The school is trying to sell the notion that this collegiate team is worth paying $5 mil a year in players salaries. The value proposition is the players will elevate the profile of the school by representing VCU. So now you have players in a school sanctioned practice not repping the school apparel, the university releasing pics to the public showing this and fans fighting with each other over it.

This should be easiest decision Ed and PMjr have to make today. No more releasing photos from a VCU practice with players not wearing VCU gear. VCU is sparing no expense in the highest quality practice gear. Unless there is an extenuating circumstance, players getting NIL should be wearing VCU gear in practice imo, cameras or not.

 

[RowdyPkunk]

I get what you are saying about game day results. I agree mostly with your points.
Comparing your job as an office worker and an MBB collegiate player making $400k isn't a good comparison. The players are paid to rep the school. I gotta say, if you were making $400k from an organization and your main job was to represent that organization to the public, then any pic that org releases of you performing should have you in the org's gear. And if you are part of a team, and the org is supplying top quality team gear to wear (for free), you should wear the product.

The school is trying to sell the notion that this team is worth paying $5 mil a year in players salaries. The value proposition is the players will elevate the profile of the school by representing VCU. So now you have players in a school sanctioned practice not repping the school apparel, the university releasing pics to the public showing this and fans fighting with each other over it.

This should be easiest decision Ed and PMjr have to make today. No more releasing photos from a VCU practice with players not wearing VCU gear. VCU is sparing no expense in the highest quality practice gear. Unless there is an extenuating circumstance, players getting NIL should be wearing VCU gear in practice imo, cameras or not.

So I get the whole repping the school/organization/team stand point... and generally speaking after games when they are walking out of the locker rooms to chat with friends, family, fans, etc.... they usually are wearing their VCU Hoodies or Sweats.

And comparing a setting where someone is on the court playing basketball, to off the court settings such as an office, or a public appearance where a player is representing the school are also different environments & settings.

If they are out and about in the community, or doing a public appearance or filming a video or something like that.... By All means they should be wearing team sponsored VCU gear etc.


But here's another reason Idgaf about what they are wearing in pre game shoot around..... I've attended hundreds of VCU games at the STU, as have you I'm sure along with many others..... and the temperature in the Gym is seemingly different every time you go in there. Some days I go in there and it's freezing to where I gotta keep my jacket on til game time.... other days I go in there and I'm sweating before tip off. And depending on the temperature in the gym, some players may prefer extra layers, other players may prefer fewer layers of clothing on.

Some may be out there in their basketball issued shorts & shirt that they wear under their jersey.... while others maybe out there wearing their jersey, under shirt, "warmup" jersey, and Sweats while out there in the gym because its so cold.

Now I'm sure they're all school issued stuff.... but Idgaf whether the player is in their basketball jersey & shorts issued by the school... or whether they're covered in 5 layers of clothing during shoot around/warmups/practice... etc.

Obviously I'm with you that, whatever they are wearing during practice, shoot around, warm ups... etc. should be school issued stuff....

But that doesn't mean that every player needs to have 5 layers of clothing on, or nothing but their VCU jersey & Basketball shorts on during Warmups/shootaround/practice.... etc.

If one player has 5 layers of VCU issued clothing on & the other is in their basketball jersey & shorts issued by VCU.... they are both still repping VCU, despite not being identical from head to toe during warmups, shoot around, practice... etc.


But also how these players dress for a practice, warmups, shootaround.... has little to nothing to do with their performance in games.

I've been to a practice for MBB, and I've been to a Dozen or more practices for WBB.... and I'll tell you right now.... what they were wearing had 0 AFFECT on what I took away from those practices or what I saw in games that followed. Heck, there were players wearing VCU gear that may not have looked or performed as well.

My issue is... the OP is just finding another stupid little thing to complain about and come up with another Bull$#!t excuse for why we are struggling in certain areas.... that have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with our performance on the court..... and something that was never an issue the last handful of years.

 

[MobileMunchies]

I can only relate this topic to how it relates to me, not them as they're not me and I'm not them. I wear gear to a game, and for that matter, around the house and while I'm working (!!!) as I'm proud to be a part of something so powerful. This also directly relates to my participation.

 

[WillWeaverRVA]

I once photographed a VCU volleyball match against High Point. I had forgotten that High Point's colors are purple and white and waltzed into the Siegel Center wearing a purple polo. Whoops.

 

[balldontlie]

I once photographed a VCU volleyball match against High Point. I had forgotten that High Point's colors are purple and white and waltzed into the Siegel Center wearing a purple polo. Whoops.

Went to the game against ur a few years ago with a friend who is also a VCU alum. Not sure what the heck was going through his head, but he shows up in a red and blue Northface jacket. As soon as I pointed it out he just goes "ah sh*t." Some guy gave him grief in the concession line and my friend just tells him "I made the biggest mistake of my life," proceeds to take off the jacket for the remainder of the game.

 

[SteveMM]

I once photographed a VCU volleyball match against High Point. I had forgotten that High Point's colors are purple and white and waltzed into the Siegel Center wearing a purple polo. Whoops.

In 1987 (I'm old) a friend got tickets to the first post-strike Redskins game, where the "real" players were on the field and not the scabs. I didn't even think to ask who the Redskins were playing. I'm not a fan of the team, but it was free tickets so I went. I was also a stupid 16 year old kid. I wore my high school football jersey, which was green and white. Yep ... turns out they were playing the Jets. The fans were irate because the scab team was better than the real one. The Jets won, and it's shocking I didn't get beat up.

 

[Bluey]

In 1987 (I'm old) a friend got tickets to the first post-strike Redskins game, where the "real" players were on the field and not the scabs. I didn't even think to ask who the Redskins were playing. I'm not a fan of the team, but it was free tickets so I went. I was also a stupid 16 year old kid. I wore my high school football jersey, which was green and white. Yep ... turns out they were playing the Jets. The fans were irate because the scab team was better than the real one. The Jets won, and it's shocking I didn't get beat up.

Skins beat the Jets in ‘87. Their only home loss was to the Rams.

 

[VCU Finance 2008]

I think the hyperbolic negative reactions to the OP are just silly.

Is a lack of sartorial cohesion a root cause of problems? Almost certainly not, but it *might* be a bit of a symptom and contributing complication. When concepts like team and school identity and allegiance are already being stretched close to ripping point by wild west free agency, even superficial image stuff can matter. School spirit and too-cool-for-school don't mix.

They weren't wearing anything that was too cool. Nothing designer, nothing with unusual logos, no personal sponsored deals. Just shorts and shirts and sweats and jackets. Some had VCU logos visible on them in the photos and some did not. Brandon was wearing a hoodie on the plane that had an A10 logo on it. Not VCU gear but something given to him by the conference at some point. The school gives them stuff to wear, Nike gives them stuff to wear, the A10 gives them gear, they get gear at tournaments that they wear. They were wearing practice gear in practice. I don't even know if everyone commenting on this thread has seen the photos so maybe someone could embed them. The guys that didn't have something with a VCU logo on it had plain black shirts that might have even had a VCU logo on the back. It was a closed walk through as well.

 

[SteveMM]

Skins beat the Jets in ‘87. Their only home loss was to the Rams.

I was going by memory of something from 1987. It's amazing I got the names of the teams right.

You are correct. They did win, 17-16. The fans were still irate as heck. Items were being thrown onto the field the entire game and the chants of "bring back the scabs" went on for much of the contest.

 

[Bluey]

I was going by memory of something from 1987. It's amazing I got the names of the teams right.

You are correct. They did win, 17-16. The fans were still irate as heck. Items were being thrown onto the field the entire game and the chants of "bring back the scabs" went on for much of the contest.

Yep. I was there, remember that season well.