The Official Beat the Elizabeth City State Vikings in the Stu on Black & Gold Friday Thread


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I can't recall the last time VCU played a Div II in season. Maybe someone can edify me. But I went there thinking VCU would be tested by a decent team. As we learned last week, Drake starts 4 Div II players. But, there was nothing to be gained by playing this game. The mighty Vikings don't play a tough man to man or zone. They weren't physica. They weren't big. And when Max went to the floor, all I could think was all risk, no reward. Yeah, Hill scored double figures...but against lesser talent. And Brandon played with his usual tenacity. But we knew that's how he plays. The shining moment: Phillip did not incur one foul. That's probably because he knew something we were about to learn. There was no need to foul.
 
I'm not a fan of playing DII schools in season... especially when we could easily play ODU and get the same results.😜
 
I'm not a fan of playing DII schools in season... especially when we could easily play ODU and get the same results.😜
The argument that "having a D1 program where we are supposed to win big but only win by 3-4 would hurt us come selection Sunday as far as NET" is one of the weakest things I've ever heard regarding our program (if it was really said in that context).
 
The argument that "having a D1 program where we are supposed to win big but only win by 3-4 would hurt us come selection Sunday as far as NET" is one of the weakest things I've ever heard regarding our program (if it was really said in that context).
So RO addressed this in his post game. It’s a concept he picked up in the MW conference. This years every A10 team has a non d1 team on the schedule (same method the MW used). It’s not so much to directly impact the teams at he top as it is for the team at the bottom of the conference to eliminate a game that could bring down the conference overall but the agreement is for every team to schedule one. So in context, its not about VCU specifically
 
The argument that "having a D1 program where we are supposed to win big but only win by 3-4 would hurt us come selection Sunday as far as NET" is one of the weakest things I've ever heard regarding our program (if it was really said in that context).
It's a bit more complicated than that, and it's not so much something specific to us, as it is a systemic glitch with how the various important metrics are calculated, which is why it's being used as a loophole to game the system, especially across whole conferences trying to collectively juice their SOS.

Basically, games against non-D1 teams do not get factored into NET (or other indexes). Playing a bad /lower D1 team hurts your strength of schedule values, win or lose, but non-D1 does not get included at all (in the math that is, but I'm sure a loss would still become part of the known narrative).

The formulas as currently designed seem to, probably unintentionally, incentivize playing one or two non-D1 games (more than that and the math advantage probably gets overwhelmed by the narrative disadvantage). I would hope those who formulate the various proprietary metrics catch on and close the loophole.
 
No issues for me playing a D2 team here. It does not go against SOS and a good tune up game after a disappointing tournament to get the younger guys in.
 
The argument that "having a D1 program where we are supposed to win big but only win by 3-4 would hurt us come selection Sunday as far as NET" is one of the weakest things I've ever heard regarding our program (if it was really said in that context)
This board has next level spin and championship excuse making
 
So next year we get the Lobos at home. I guess that's what we know so far.
 
So RO addressed this in his post game. It’s a concept he picked up in the MW conference. This years every A10 team has a non d1 team on the schedule (same method the MW used). It’s not so much to directly impact the teams at he top as it is for the team at the bottom of the conference to eliminate a game that could bring down the conference overall but the agreement is for every team to schedule one. So in context, its not about VCU specifically

The most interesting part is how much faster the MW figured this out than the A-10 did.
 
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