The Official Beat the Saint Louis Billikens in Missouri Thread

I would like to believe that A10 officials are quietly investigating what happened and will have discussions with both VCU and St. Louis. Like everyone else, I have no idea what started the brawl, but I think it is safe to say that all parties deserve blame. From an optics standpoint, I think St. Louis comes out looking much worse than VCU, being that this happened in their arena. And it doesn't help them that the one guy that stood out the most was the bald headed St. Louis fan ... that guy was completely unhinged.
 
I'm ready to move on from this. It shouldn't have happened, hopefully won't happen again, and no one seems to have been injured. Let's move on. I don't know who is to blame, I don't think anyone on here truly knows, but I do find it odd how eager some seem to be to pin it squarely on Russell's mom.
 
I guess you weren’t on social media during the Rhoades year. When parents of players literally started getting into battles with fans and were trashing coaches trying to turn the fanbase against the staff. I can name multiple players who were causing drama on the court while their family caused drama off the court. That was pre NIL days. Now these players are paid. If your family is embarrassing this university now we have a serious issue. Because they reflect you and both of you reflect this university.
No, I was living under a rock. Yes I was on social media. That was about as disgusting as what we're witnessing now with this, never should have gotten to that point, and to say it was precipitated by a parent or players attacking fans for drama on the court caused the back and forth is out of touch with reality. A player getting compensated for making a university tons of money does not give fans a free pass to act in ways we should not be acting. It doesn't matter what a parent does, none of us is qualified to diagnose them or their (supposed) behavior, we should not be firing at them on social media or forums.
 
What am I supposed to take from this? That a fan in blue is the only one trying to push his way to the front? Somehow I'm skeptical that Phil's mom is the instigator.

She has a history, just like Phil does on the court. Russell absolutely destroyed his credibility with the refs in Charleston, and the refs made him pay for it. And I saw it first hand as I was there.
 
There was a first hand account on a youtube earlier on the thread of a guy from St. Louis that basically said Russell's mom was chirping loudly and eventually went up a few rows to continue the chirping. Once up there, she sat down to continue what the guy considered 'friendly' chirping, the St. Louis fan's, who she was chirping with, wife/gf/female friend got upset she was in her seat and put hands on her first which caused the escalation and more and more words were exchanged until it turned into a giant pushing match and a number of overserved blue wearing individuals got excessive.

So, why would you get into an argument with someone who has a ticket to the seat you are sitting in and you know it's not your seat? If she stays in her own seat, this probably doesn't happen.
 
No, I was living under a rock. Yes I was on social media. That was about as disgusting as what we're witnessing now with this, never should have gotten to that point, and to say it was precipitated by a parent or players attacking fans for drama on the court caused the back and forth is out of touch with reality. A player getting compensated for making a university tons of money does not give fans a free pass to act in ways we should not be acting. It doesn't matter what a parent does, none of us is qualified to diagnose them or their (supposed) behavior, we should not be firing at them on social media or forums.
If anyone actually needs a reason to stay off the backs of players or their families, there's absolutely nothing productive in doing it. It's quite damaging in every sense of the word, anyone with a mere stitch of common sense or common decency knows this.

MM out.
 
A lot of interesting takes on the topic. Certainly a good representation of every day life and points of view.
I don’t condone starting a fight but have no issue with ending one.

Rhetorical question. If a balloon pops when being filled with at, is it the fault of the balloon for no being made stronger or the fault of the person putting the air in 🤔

I think what compounds this situation is what @buckwheat reported about the same family at the Loyola-Chicago game earlier in the month. It needs to be addressed by Ed that he will not tolerate any more instance from this family going forward. Ed controls the complimentary tickets they are receiving.
 
That seems to show involvement but not innocence or guilt. No one would have been filming when the incident started because there wasn't anything to film yet. It took way too long to get resolved but as far as fights go it was pretty mild from what I saw on television. Not something you want to happen again but I doubt if there were any injuries or charges. Everyone moves on with their lives and hopefully learned a little something from it.

Mild enough to merit articles on ESPN.com and CBSSports.com.
 
My take on the altercation, is that we should wait to see what our AD and/or police have to say. Pictures dependant upon when they are captured, may not tell the entire story.

I get it Russell does something’s on the court that may be questionable. However, to state “I see where he gets it” is disrespectful to both the player and his family. Quite frankly that type of jumping to conclusions is unacceptable and quite frankly sad.

Unless you were there from start to finish, we should all reserve judgement. I can tell you that sometimes the families take a lot of abuse. The type that would set off MLK. I was at St. Joes recently and three fans had to be removed based on the things they were yelling at our players and their families. Good thing is that this time they were behind the basket and the families were behind our bench.

Not condoning violence but I can see where maybe the cumulative effects took its toll. Also, maybe the guy said or insinuated something that Russell’s family could not tolerate. St. Louis like Philly has tough fans, and if you add in the social component the wrong things have been said.

Again, not condoning violence but we should reserve judgement until a full investigation is conduction. That is unless you were sitting there from start to finish.
Reserve judgement on an anonymous sports message board?

Like that is gonna happen
 
Don't forget Indiana and Michigan.

VCU had a 9 pt lead on the Hoosiers with 4 minutes to go and Michigan sliced and diced the press but Shaka made no adjustments.

He made Mitch Mcgary look like Kevin Mchale.
These games keep being brought up, especially the Michigan game, whenever someone is throwing shade at Shaka Smart. Remember sometimes you lose games because the other team has better players. When we played Michigan, every starter and a few reserves were all being predicted to have NBA careers. Indiana's point guard was a lottery pick who had a good NBA career. More often than not when we managed to beat one of those teams it was because HAVOC overcame talent, not the other way around.
 
Espn st. Louis had a first hand acct on the morning show from a fan sitting in the same row where incident took place.(24:30 mark).

 
Joe L might be a crack pot but he’s been pretty much on point for quite a few years now. He’s definitely got people on the inside. If he’s got us in the First four out there is a reason. He’s not simply giving us props. It’s because someone is whispering in his ear. He’s literally been on point even on last four in and first four out. He’s actually been really accurate on even seedings and match ups now. I don’t necessarily like him but he does actually a really good job on his predictions.
Joey Brackets is fine, but shouldn't be treated as the gospel. He doesn't work for the committe and never has regardless of what people say. I'll give him credit for being click bait-y, he kills it there.

All things considered, VCU *should* be considered for an at-large bid right now, but the resume is still very vanilla and if Dayton continues to suck then there's a good chance we'll reach March with zero Q1 wins.
 
These games keep being brought up, especially the Michigan game, whenever someone is throwing shade at Shaka Smart. Remember sometimes you lose games because the other team has better players. When we played Michigan, every starter and a few reserves were all being predicted to have NBA careers. Indiana's point guard was a lottery pick who had a good NBA career. More often than not when we managed to beat one of those teams it was because HAVOC overcame talent, not the other way around.
That Michigan team had at least three NBA guys I can think of offhand, one of whom is still playing today. I hated that loss but there's no shame in it.
 
I think what compounds this situation is what @buckwheat reported about the same family at the Loyola-Chicago game earlier in the month. It needs to be addressed by Ed that he will not tolerate any more instance from this family going forward. Ed controls the complimentary tickets they are receiving.
For me, I think you are counting on other people's interpretations as facts as well as making assumptions based on your dislike of Phil's style of play in Charleston. When there are very few facts involved, blanketly passing judgement on an entire family serves no purpose whatsoever. Let those responsible for handling the situation do so, and the rest of us can get ready to root our team on to victory Saturday afternoon.
 
These games keep being brought up, especially the Michigan game, whenever someone is throwing shade at Shaka Smart. Remember sometimes you lose games because the other team has better players. When we played Michigan, every starter and a few reserves were all being predicted to have NBA careers. Indiana's point guard was a lottery pick who had a good NBA career. More often than not when we managed to beat one of those teams it was because HAVOC overcame talent, not the other way around.
We should have won but Bradford Burgess missed two FTs late. Make either one we win and are sweet 16 bound. Burgess was amazing but hard believe one of the most clutch players we ever had missed those FTs at the end.
 
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