The Official Smash the Richmond Spiders in the Stu Thread

Here we go again:

"We all know the reasons we can compete with VCU, but if you forgot - let me list them out again.

1) Lower admissions - VCU is a dumber school that will allow anyone in while UR is a place of higher academic learning with higher standards. How can we compete when a good portion of their players would not gain entry to UR?"
Hmm I had no idea Florida, Duke, UNC, UCLA, Mich, Clemson, UVA, Vanderbilt, Stanford (They really should have told me the awful standards when I did the SOM program with them.) , etc were such horrible educational establishments. Someone should let them know so they can adjust accordingly.
 
Not to mention, they can easily do what other "academics" schools do, relax their admissions requirements for their athletes. All of their obstacles are self-imposed. You really think Duke basketball players could get admitted if they were 5'8?

Since you brought up Duke's academic peformance - here

 
You do know that this has very little to do with the argument that Chill was making.

Also, not sure if you attended college (not intended as a dig). However, GPAs have little to no correlation on a players intelligence. If you take the right classes, the right professors, have the right tutoring, and are needed by the U, your GPA will be reflected.

For example, a good buddy of mine who couldn’t pass Physical Science went on to play in the Big 12 and later the NFL, consistently made the Deans list and graduated college. Heck we have kids at VCU that have 3.0’s who aren’t necessarily as good academically as they are athletically.
 
You do know that this has very little to do with the argument that Chill was making.

Also, not sure if you attended college (not intended as a dig). However, GPAs have little to no correlation on a players intelligence. If you take the right classes, the right professors, have the right tutoring, and are needed by the U, your GPA will be reflected.

For example, a good buddy of mine who couldn’t pass Physical Science went on to play in the Big 12 and later the NFL, consistently made the Deans list and graduated college. Heck we have kids at VCU that have 3.0’s who aren’t necessarily as good academically as they are athletically.
I'm sorry. I don't believe every school is like UNC.

The old stereotype of the "dumb" jock went out with the 80's.

Most Athletes leverage th self discipline, focus and commitment developed over years of training on the field and apply it to classroom to achieve their goals to become successful on the field of their choice.
 
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Respectfully disagree. We can get kids in that they cannot. This was a big deal to Jerrry Wainwright who coached at UR for a short period.

Buckingham and Sherod were good students, but we didn’t want them.

Also, I’m pretty sure that Brad Burgess was set to go to UR but had issues getting through their admissions.
They were also recruiting Silas, then disappeared.
 
You do know that this has very little to do with the argument that Chill was making.

Also, not sure if you attended college (not intended as a dig). However, GPAs have little to no correlation on a players intelligence. If you take the right classes, the right professors, have the right tutoring, and are needed by the U, your GPA will be reflected.

For example, a good buddy of mine who couldn’t pass Physical Science went on to play in the Big 12 and later the NFL, consistently made the Deans list and graduated college. Heck we have kids at VCU that have 3.0’s who aren’t necessarily as good academically as they are athletically.
Scenery is big too. Skeen had an absolutely awful gpa when he got to VCU and graduated high honors. I took a class with a Colombian professor at VCU and crashed pretty hard as the class couldn’t understand him and he refused to share notes so most bombed. Took the higher up class of the same type with a good professor and the professor let me skip final classes because I was 99%. Stanford’s director taught the SOM program and he was amazing. One of my final professors at VCU was absolute heck(Had to take the class). Another that same semester was my favorite professor ever. That’s why people do research on professors.
 
I know school pride is a thing, I get it. I root for VCU, well because I graduated from there. But....I don't get hung up on the whole academic excellence deal. Success is doing the best with what you got. I was successful because I had the drive and street smarts to some extent, not due to the university name of a piece of parchment. Heck, my career was not even in the field in which I graduated (Mass Comm). A university degree is only a small part of what makes one successful (ever how you define that).
 
Heck, my career was not even in the field in which I graduated (Mass Comm). A university degree is only a small part of what makes one successful (ever how you define that).
Without any stats to back it up, I would say the majority of people are not doing exactly what their degrees say. I graduated from Mass Comm as well. I was in the broadcast track and worked in broadcast news for 8-9 years after graduating. Since then, I've worked in PR. It's still mass comm but it's not what I studied.
 
What does that have to do with admission requirements?
I focused on your comments "You really think Duke basketball players could get admitted if they were 5'8"?"


I don't Duke is cutting corners on their admission of athletes. Jeremy Roach went to Paul VI which one of the more the rigorous catholic schools in the DC area and did well academically. He's definitely could have gotten into Duke without Basketball...do you think Bilas was too stupid to succeed at Duke..he has a successful law practice outside of ESPN.
 
I focused on your comments "You really think Duke basketball players could get admitted if they were 5'8"?"


I don't Duke is cutting corners on their admission of athletes. Jeremy Roach went to Paul VI which one of the more the rigorous catholic schools in the DC area and did well academically. He's definitely could have gotten into Duke without Basketball...do you think Bilas was too stupid to succeed at Duke..he has a successful law practice outside of ESPN.
Zion Williamson. Next.
 
I know school pride is a thing, I get it. I root for VCU, well because I graduated from there. But....I don't get hung up on the whole academic excellence deal. Success is doing the best with what you got. I was successful because I had the drive and street smarts to some extent, not due to the university name of a piece of parchment. Heck, my career was not even in the field in which I graduated (Mass Comm). A university degree is only a small part of what makes one successful (ever how you define that).
Well, according the UR fans their "academic excellence" explains why their team sucks. The good players who are kicking their behind could not get admitted into their school (which is assuming good players would want to be a part of their pompous, khaki wearing campus).

They also say their "academic excellence" is the reason they can't get students to attend their games because they have to spent so much time studying.

And their "academic excellence" is why alumni don't attend their games because their graduates are working so hard in their chosen profession having to work 80 hours per week.

They are very hung up on the whole academic excellence deal. They're like an annoying wife who would rather complain about being unhappy than just leaving. I wish they would stop following sports and just invest in buying cats and sweater vests and spend their time monitoring kids running on their lawns.
 
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Respectfully disagree. We can get kids in that they cannot. This was a big deal to Jerrry Wainwright who coached at UR for a short period.

Buckingham and Sherod were good students, but we didn’t want them.

Also, I’m pretty sure that Brad Burgess was set to go to UR but had issues getting through their admissions.
I actually know a few of the guys the recruited. At least some of the older guys. I wont call out names because that’s not cool. But some of their all time greats weren’t the sharpest knives in the drawers.

Also, ur really has to get off it high horse. There are schools that out perform them regularly that have higher academic standards. Many are public schools. U of I, IU, Michigan, Iowa, Wisconsin UCLA to name a few in the Big 10. UVA, UNC, NC State, UTexas, UC Berkeley just to name a few that are all better and all generally put the smack down on both us and certainly ur.

That admission stuff is BS. I attended an Ivy league school for grad school, and if a coach in a marquee sport wanted an athlete they could get them.
 
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