UAB at Duke...tonight

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I hope everyone is pulling for UAB tonight...that would help the RPI
 
Whether UAB wins or loses, just playing Duke will help the Blazers' RPI because of Duke's high winning percentage. 50% of a team's RPI is made up of the winning percentages of all the D1 opponents they face, so adding a high win total team like Duke is a boost whether or not you win.

If UAB wins, it helps their own winning percentage, and because it's a road game, it counts more in the winning percentage calculation, but the fact that a specific win happened to be against Duke in Cameron doesn't actually get factored into the numbers.

Of course real people can look at stuff in context and see more than the numbers show... it just won't be as reflected in the RPI as one might think it should be.
 
There is no way that UAB will come close to beating Duke.
Even if they do (in dream world), our RPI was ruined by the GSU FAIL. It's down to 97 now :oops:
We will be lucky to come out of CAA play with an RPI over 100.
 
mrCAA said:
There is no way that UAB will come close to beating Duke.
Even if they do (in dream world), our RPI was ruined by the GSU FAIL. It's down to 97 now :oops:
We will be lucky to come out of CAA play with an RPI over 100.
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I don't mean to pick on you mrCAA, because everybody seems unable to understand how RPI really works, but the fact is, from a purely RPI standpoint, losing to GA State hurts less than beating Tennessee (or even if we had played and beaten 'nova at MSG) would have helped us. Why? Because the RPI calculations don't give a darn who you beat or who beats you. They DO care about where you win or lose, with road wins counting a bit more than 1 win, and road losses counting a bit less than 1 loss. Neutral wins and losses count as a strait up one, and home wins and losses reverse the away values. It is true that we had an opportunity to add a road win in Atlanta, which would have helped us, but 1 road loss isn't something that ruins the RPI... simply playing GSU was going to knock us down most likely. The addition of 1+ (1.4 i think) win to our winning would have helped, but the Panthers' record, and the record of the teams they've played, hurts even more. Since we are going to play the games on the schedule anyway, we are going to take the hit or boost from an opponent's schedule and win/loss percentage anyway.
 
artRAMinMN said:
mrCAA said:
There is no way that UAB will come close to beating Duke.
Even if they do (in dream world), our RPI was ruined by the GSU FAIL. It's down to 97 now :oops:
We will be lucky to come out of CAA play with an RPI over 100.
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I don't mean to pick on you mrCAA, because everybody seems unable to understand how RPI really works, but the fact is, from a purely RPI standpoint, losing to GA State hurts less than beating Tennessee (or even if we had played and beaten 'nova at MSG) would have helped us. Why? Because the RPI calculations don't give a darn who you beat or who beats you. They DO care about where you win or lose, with road wins counting a bit more than 1 win, and road losses counting a bit less than 1 loss. Neutral wins and losses count as a strait up one, and home wins and losses reverse the away values. It is true that we had an opportunity to add a road win in Atlanta, which would have helped us, but 1 road loss isn't something that ruins the RPI... simply playing GSU was going to knock us down most likely. The addition of 1+ (1.4 i think) win to our winning would have helped, but the Panthers' record, and the record of the teams they've played, hurts even more. Since we are going to play the games on the schedule anyway, we are going to take the hit or boost from an opponent's schedule and win/loss percentage anyway.
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Come on Art, if you've noticed me at all on the boards you would know that I understand this.
I did mention at the end of my comment that CAA games are going to keep our RPI under 100 (To your point about winning or losing vs GSU would have hurt our RPI). No matter the outcome some (most) CAA opponents are going to hurt our RPI. I'm still sour about the GSU loss is all...
 
mrCAA said:
artRAMinMN said:
mrCAA said:
There is no way that UAB will come close to beating Duke.
Even if they do (in dream world), our RPI was ruined by the GSU FAIL. It's down to 97 now :oops:
We will be lucky to come out of CAA play with an RPI over 100.
Click to expand...

I don't mean to pick on you mrCAA, because everybody seems unable to understand how RPI really works, but the fact is, from a purely RPI standpoint, losing to GA State hurts less than beating Tennessee (or even if we had played and beaten 'nova at MSG) would have helped us. Why? Because the RPI calculations don't give a darn who you beat or who beats you. They DO care about where you win or lose, with road wins counting a bit more than 1 win, and road losses counting a bit less than 1 loss. Neutral wins and losses count as a strait up one, and home wins and losses reverse the away values. It is true that we had an opportunity to add a road win in Atlanta, which would have helped us, but 1 road loss isn't something that ruins the RPI... simply playing GSU was going to knock us down most likely. The addition of 1+ (1.4 i think) win to our winning would have helped, but the Panthers' record, and the record of the teams they've played, hurts even more. Since we are going to play the games on the schedule anyway, we are going to take the hit or boost from an opponent's schedule and win/loss percentage anyway.
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Come on Art, if you've noticed me at all on the boards you would know that I understand this.
I did mention at the end of my comment that CAA games are going to keep our RPI under 100 (To your point about winning or losing vs GSU would have hurt our RPI). No matter the outcome some (most) CAA opponents are going to hurt our RPI. I'm still sour about the GSU loss is all...
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fair enough, so am I
 
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