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http://www2.timesdispatch.com/rtd/news/ ... 01/340943/
Raised 24%.. perhaps the prez was speaking of this news!
Raised 24%.. perhaps the prez was speaking of this news!
VCU raises in-state tuition
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L72boy said:
They could raise it another 24% and that could raise $33.5 million for the football team. Sounds great!
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You younger guys will appreciate this or at least wonder how costs rise so much:
A few months ago I found the receipt for my second semester at VCU as an out-of-state student for the 1971-1972 school year. The total cost for the semester was $999.50 this included tuition (again for out-of-state), room, meals, laundry service (sheets and towels) and fees.
Back then I could work in the summer and part-time during the school year and pay all of my expenses - so no debt when I graduated.
A few months ago I found the receipt for my second semester at VCU as an out-of-state student for the 1971-1972 school year. The total cost for the semester was $999.50 this included tuition (again for out-of-state), room, meals, laundry service (sheets and towels) and fees.
Back then I could work in the summer and part-time during the school year and pay all of my expenses - so no debt when I graduated.
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Mercury said:
True. I'll never forget when I took International Political Economy. I had 11 books for that class and had to write a 5 page essay on every single one!
Should be off-topic. Typical way that liberals try to solve problems. Raise fees and taxes. This become a selective tax increase on students and parents who can ill-afford this additional cost. I wonder if the BOV took into account price-elasticity and it is possible that revenue may not increase as much as projected. There could be a large enrollment increase at the community colleges. I feel positive that this money is not for a football team.
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mike7842 said:
So should it have been a non-selective tax on taxpayers in general? Should they have simply made cuts that would have cost students educational opportunities (which might then provide financial gain in the longer term)? I'm really not sure how having the people using and benefiting from a thing pay for that thing is a "liberal" way to solve a problem.
Posted on the TD on line comment section.
It is just not right for VCU’s budget to be cut and for the BOV to turn right around and sock it to the students. I’m with the previous poster who said that the General Assembly should take note and not give VCU or any of the other state schools an increase when the economy improves - VCU certainly won’t lower tuition. VCU needs to tighten its belt - there is still fat in the budget even though they cry poverty and that they have already cut to the bone. Is the TD looking at the finances of VCU? If not, they should be. There is no doubt that positions and salaries could be cut. Unfortunately many VCU students will have to cut back on their coursework or drop out because of the increase - 25% in one year. VCU basically said to the General Assembly go ahead and cut us all you want, we’re just going to stick it to the students and keep doing what we’re doing. It’s not right.
It is just not right for VCU’s budget to be cut and for the BOV to turn right around and sock it to the students. I’m with the previous poster who said that the General Assembly should take note and not give VCU or any of the other state schools an increase when the economy improves - VCU certainly won’t lower tuition. VCU needs to tighten its belt - there is still fat in the budget even though they cry poverty and that they have already cut to the bone. Is the TD looking at the finances of VCU? If not, they should be. There is no doubt that positions and salaries could be cut. Unfortunately many VCU students will have to cut back on their coursework or drop out because of the increase - 25% in one year. VCU basically said to the General Assembly go ahead and cut us all you want, we’re just going to stick it to the students and keep doing what we’re doing. It’s not right.
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mike7842 said:
VCU students benefit from the education they receive from the University. Art's argument is that there is nothing traditionally "liberal" about making someone pay for something they receive. One's that typically make arguments regarding liberal vs. conservative argue that "liberals" don't want to work for anything and "conservatives" work hard and earn everything they get. I think this is where Art was going, what's traditionally "liberal" about making people pay for something when everyone complains that "liberals" are all about the handouts? Your argument seems contradictary because no way is tuition a tax, nor should it be compared to one, it is a fee for services received that you personally will benefit from.
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YBR explained it fairly well, but then again I don't see why you weren't able to figure it out on your own mike... it wasn't cryptic.
You apparently care for the students and their parents, as I hope we all would. You seem to disagree with them having to pay more for an education that is (from looking at rising enrollment) ever more in demand. Instead, as I take from your copied comment from the RTD, you believe that the school should simply tighten its belt. I'm not sure if you honestly believe that the necessary cuts would all come from simple fat trimming, or if you would be OK with a reduction in the quality and/or quantity of educational opportunity offered. If so you are advocating a reduction in value even if the price stays the same.
When there is a higher demand for something than there is a supply, it isn't unreasonable to expect the market price to reflect that. This is especially true when the perceived value of that thing and its cost of production, are both rising.
You apparently care for the students and their parents, as I hope we all would. You seem to disagree with them having to pay more for an education that is (from looking at rising enrollment) ever more in demand. Instead, as I take from your copied comment from the RTD, you believe that the school should simply tighten its belt. I'm not sure if you honestly believe that the necessary cuts would all come from simple fat trimming, or if you would be OK with a reduction in the quality and/or quantity of educational opportunity offered. If so you are advocating a reduction in value even if the price stays the same.
When there is a higher demand for something than there is a supply, it isn't unreasonable to expect the market price to reflect that. This is especially true when the perceived value of that thing and its cost of production, are both rising.
