BaNgMyPrOgRaM
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How many other schools can make that claim?
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I couldn'tMaybe not..... but you could argue that 24+ wins against primarily Q3/Q4 games & mid major ones at that isn't a quality team either.
tell that to Indiana State last year who was 28-6 & got left out of the NCAA Tourney who had a NET of 30 last season.No 24+ wins. Speaks for itself.
I hear you, but let's look at this year.tell that to Indiana State last year who was 28-6 & got left out of the NCAA Tourney who had a NET of 30 last season.
Yeah I'm well awareI hear you, but let's look at this year.
Currently:
Oklahoma is 20 - 12 (6 - 12). Their Q1/2 record is 11 -11
VCU is 25 -6 (15 -3). Our Q1/2 record is 6-5.
It's not so cut and dry, is all I am saying.
Time will tell but that still shows Oklahoma with a losing record at 9-10 in Q1/Q2 and VCU with a winning record at 7 - 4 in Q1/Q2.Yeah I'm well aware
VCU between Quads 3 & 4..... 18-1 with a Quad 4 loss. Oklahoma- 9-1, with a Quad 3 loss.
VCU's Quad Record for RPI (via Warren Nolan)
Q1- 1-2
Q2- 6-2
Q3- 5-1
Q4- 12-1
Oklahoma's Quad Record for RPI
Q1- 6-10
Q2- 3-0
Q3- 3-2
Q4- 8-0
VCU's Worst 4 losses:
1. Seton Hall*- NET- 210, RPI- 291
2. Nevada*- NET- 78, RPI- 146
3. @ SBU- NET- 97, RPI- 75
4. @ SLU- NET- 101, RPI- 77
Oklahoma's worst 4 losses
1. LSU- NET 89, RPI 153
2. Texas- NET 41, RPI 90
Every other loss by OU, the opponent is ranked in the Top 40 in both NET & RPI.... and a good number of those 12 losses are to teams ranked in the Top in both NET & RPI.
The committee has shown.... it's not about what your record is, or how many wins/losses you have.... but who you have beaten and who you lost to. VCU has worst losses than Oklahoma, and we don't have near the quality of wins that they do.
You can only play who is on your schedule. That’s the debate we went through during the CFB playoffs. If Quality over Quantity then SMU wouldn’t have been there. Their SOS was terrible. VCU would love to play Q1/Q2 every week but that’s not realistic. Sure they could have schedule some tougher OOC game but the argument can be made you don’t know now who will be good because teams change every year.Quality first then Quantity.
You could have 25+ wins but if half or more of your wins come against Q3/Q4.... those wins get diminished & not worth as much.
That same Indiana State then came up just short of winning the NIT. I think that combined with UVA’s first four showing proved a point. The committee blew it.tell that to Indiana State last year who was 28-6 & got left out of the NCAA Tourney who had a NET of 30 last season.
Actually we're 2-1 in Q1 not 1-2. OK has a losing record in Q1, under 500 record in Q1/Q2 combined. They have two things over us, they played more Q1/Q2 games (but won a lower percentage of them) and we have a Q4 loss.Yeah I'm well aware
VCU between Quads 3 & 4..... 18-1 with a Quad 4 loss. Oklahoma- 9-1, with a Quad 3 loss.
VCU's Quad Record for RPI (via Warren Nolan)
Q1- 1-2
Q2- 6-2
Q3- 5-1
Q4- 12-1
Oklahoma's Quad Record for RPI
Q1- 6-10
Q2- 3-0
Q3- 3-2
Q4- 8-0
VCU's Worst 4 losses:
1. Seton Hall*- NET- 210, RPI- 291
2. Nevada*- NET- 78, RPI- 146
3. @ SBU- NET- 97, RPI- 75
4. @ SLU- NET- 101, RPI- 77
Oklahoma's worst 4 losses
1. LSU- NET 89, RPI 153
2. Texas- NET 41, RPI 90
Every other loss by OU, the opponent is ranked in the Top 40 in both NET & RPI.... and a good number of those 12 losses are to teams ranked in the Top in both NET & RPI.
The committee has shown.... it's not about what your record is, or how many wins/losses you have.... but who you have beaten and who you lost to. VCU has worst losses than Oklahoma, and we don't have near the quality of wins that they do.
Well if thats the case North Carolina at 8-11 in Q1 & Q2 (1-11 in Q1 alone) shouldn't be in there either.... but here they are still in the conversation.Time will tell but that still shows Oklahoma with a losing record at 9-10 in Q1/Q2 and VCU with a winning record at 7 - 4 in Q1/Q2.
I read somewhere that no team has ever had an at large with a losing record in Q1/Q2. Not sure how true that is but if it is VCU looks like it’s in a better place than the Sooners.
You can only play who is on your schedule. That’s the debate we went through during the CFB playoffs. If Quality over Quantity then SMU wouldn’t have been there. Their SOS was terrible. VCU would love to play Q1/Q2 every week but that’s not realistic. Sure they could have schedule some tougher OOC game but the argument can be made you don’t know now who will be good because teams change every year.
I said we're 2-1 in the RPI Quad Ranks... not NET ranks in that post. You are correct we are 2-1 vs Q1 in Net Ranks.Actually we're 2-1 in Q1 not 1-2. OK has a losing record in Q1, under 500 record in Q1/Q2 combined. They have two things over us, they played more Q1/Q2 games (but won a lower percentage of them) and we have a Q4 loss.
So, you play a lot of games vs Q!/Q2 what do you do with them. OK has lost in most of them. We haven't. That's my argument.