Work Those Quads! (Net Rank Thread)

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VCU -45
Dayton-70
GMU-72
SJU- 86
SBU- 93
URI-112
SLU-113
Davidson- 128
GWU-135
Loyola- 154
Duq- 160
LaSalle- 165
Umass- 195
Fordham- 236
Richmond-242

VCU has a couple absolute Net land mines coming up before a possible Quad 1 game at Dayton. As it stands GMU will be Quad 2 at home.
 
Thanks for starting this thread, normally I start it but I completely forgot this year. 😵‍💫
Yeah I use to make these some years ago under the same title but slacked off. I’m gonna try to get better. It didn’t help we completely destroyed our net some years lol. You know it’s not going well when after a game someone goes “alright time to nuke this thread.”
 
Really need Rhody & SLU to find a way to get under 100. With our odds every bit helps. We probably can't afford to lose any game outside of @Dayton or the A-10 title game.
 
Really need Rhody & SLU to find a way to get under 100. With our odds every bit helps. We probably can't afford to lose any game outside of @Dayton or the A-10 title game.
Bart Torvik's Teamcast tool suggests that we have a shot at an at-large, but it's going to be tight. I ran a few scenarios where we lose in the A10 title game against the best possible bracket if the season ended now (vs. Davidson, vs. St. Joe's, vs. George Mason) and here's what I got:

Best case scenario (1 conference loss):

- Win out: 3rd-to-last team in (VCU would also be the 3rd-to-last team in if we lost to St. Joe's in the A10 semifinals, but only if VCU wins out until then)

2 conference loss scenarios (all of these require that VCU get to the title game, if VCU loses any tournament game before then, we are out):

- Lose at SLU, at GW, OR at Duquesne, win all other games: 2nd-to-last team in

- Lose at Dayton OR at Richmond, win all other games: last team in

- Lose home game vs. George Mason, home game vs. Davidson, OR home game vs. Dayton, win all other games: last team in

- Lose ANY other home game, win all other games: out

That's it. There are no scenarios where VCU would get an at-large bid with 3 conference losses - the best case scenario is being the first team out.
 
Quads are lazy.

*Obviously, no fault of this thread, since it's just using the dubious schema organized for lazy NET bucketing, and we're stuck living in this universe.

If NET (or RPI, for that matter) was calculated in a way that didn't divorce a team's game-by-game results from its strength of schedule calculations... that is to say, if it weighted specific wins and losses on a degree of difficulty beyond just home/away/neut.... then we wouldn't have to have to resort to the blunt and arbitrary tool of quad bucketing, (which counts a bottom of Q1 result wholly differently from a top of Q2 result).
 
Quads are lazy.

*Obviously, no fault of this thread, since it's just using the dubious schema organized for lazy NET bucketing, and we're stuck living in this universe.

If NET (or RPI, for that matter) was calculated in a way that didn't divorce a team's game-by-game results from its strength of schedule calculations... that is to say, if it weighted specific wins and losses on a degree of difficulty beyond just home/away/neut.... then we wouldn't have to have to resort to the blunt and arbitrary tool of quad bucketing, (which counts a bottom of Q1 result wholly differently from a top of Q2 result).
 
Quads are lazy.

*Obviously, no fault of this thread, since it's just using the dubious schema organized for lazy NET bucketing, and we're stuck living in this universe.

If NET (or RPI, for that matter) was calculated in a way that didn't divorce a team's game-by-game results from its strength of schedule calculations... that is to say, if it weighted specific wins and losses on a degree of difficulty beyond just home/away/neut.... then we wouldn't have to have to resort to the blunt and arbitrary tool of quad bucketing, (which counts a bottom of Q1 result wholly differently from a top of Q2 result).

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hard to believe that we are not easily in if we end up 16-2 in conference play and win in a10 quarterfinals -
15-3 I think in last 4 in
14-4 on outside looking in

but recognize each year the bubble is different - some times strong sometimes weak

Those OOC results just haunt us. Name our best three OOC wins. It’s pretty sad.
 
Those OOC results just haunt us. Name our best three OOC wins. It’s pretty sad.
IMO, only OOC game that haunts us is the Seton Hall game - nothing wrong with losing at New Mexico (one of the toughest home courts in country) or neutral court to Nevada

I would add probably 98% of teams in top 100 have a head scratching loss along the way

no doubt we could have played a more rigourous OOC , at least substitute 2 more quad 1 or 2 games for the 7 quad 4 home games and that would have helped our resume come bubble discussion times (if we happen to be on it )

this Ram team is playing well ( I even think we can beat Hickory high at Butler - if Zeb can shutdown Jimmy Chitwood)
 
IMO, only OOC game that haunts us is the Seton Hall game - nothing wrong with losing at New Mexico (one of the toughest home courts in country) or neutral court to Nevada

I would add probably 98% of teams in top 100 have a head scratching loss along the way

no doubt we could have played a more rigourous OOC , at least substitute 2 more quad 1 or 2 games for the 7 quad 4 home games and that would have helped our resume come bubble discussion times (if we happen to be on it )

this Ram team is playing well ( I even think we can beat Hickory high at Butler - if Zeb can shutdown Jimmy Chitwood)

You didn’t answer my question. OOC is also about who you beat.

I’ll give you the answers:
Colorado State 80
Merrimack 163
William & Mary 184

This is what haunts us.
 
You didn’t answer my question. OOC is also about who you beat.

I’ll give you the answers:
Colorado State 80
Merrimack 163
William & Mary 184

This is what haunts us.

You seem to want to focus on those 3 wins and none of the wins in the A-10 so far. VCU also has A-10 wins as follows:

St. Joe's 86
St. Bonaventure 93
Rhode Island 113
SLU 114
 
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