rambunctiousrowdyram
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W&M being 4th best in the CAA on Net probably wasn’t expected tbf. Now given we could have made some calls to MVC.
Work Those Quads! (Net Rank Thread)
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SteveMM
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Truth. And, I'm pretty sure the coaching staff was expecting (I know I was) the conference to be stronger than that this year.
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The Seton Hall loss only haunts us because the rest of the OOC was bad. One three-point loss to a bad team shouldn't be enough to torpedo a team's at-large chances. We just didn't play enough decent teams to make up for it. I don't know what they can do to improve it moving forward, but they need to figure something out. We can't be in a position where we have to get to 26-5 with a tournament finals appearance to just squeak in.
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We’re battling middle of the pack P4’s for any at-large bid. Once you start looking at wins within the conference that’s where we really fall behind. Sure, those are four decent teams we beat, however the 9th place team in the Big 10/12 (whatever) will have four conference wins with an average NET around 50. I don’t believe comparing conference games with high majors will benefit us when the rubber hits the road.
Non-conference games are always looked at closely by the committee when comparing P4’s to the mid-majors. Who did we play, where did we play them, and who did we beat? I just believe our OOC results eliminated almost any margin for error.
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VCU still only has 4 losses total and Seton Hall is probably the only bad loss, depending on how St. Bonaventure finishes. Anything can happen between now and Selection Sunday, and it usually does.
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Excellent work DL. Anytime you can incorporate Richard Simmons into a Rams thread you deserve a tip of the cap!
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It's really up to SteveMM's lucky game day shirts and Al Davis. Recent renditions are undefeated.
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might haunt you - doesn't haunt me (thought your question was rhetorical since all of us posters know who we beat in OOC, so sorry there)
coaches use OOC games for different reasons, we know how Odom schedules so far (I don't agree with the rigor he schedules but then again I ain't the coach)
we are NET 45 and according to some bracketologists on the bubble for an at-large with 1/3 of season to go
harken back to late november when many posters said we had NO chance for an at-large - thank goodness season's last 31 regular season games
go rams
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Go Rams!
I had that sick early season feeling after our Charleston performance that I was once again stuck in ground hog day: here we go again, needing to get hot in A10 tournament (for bid) due to poor OOC performance. I’m often complaining about our OOC schedule but truth is if we don’t win the few decent OOC opponents we play then will scheduling more good OOC opponents really matter?
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You have to give yourself a chance to win those games. Can’t do that if you don’t play them. Then it’s A10 tourney or bust if you stink it up. I think I like that better than the situation we’re in now where we have a good team and can be on the outside looking in with just 6 losses on the season.
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Yes. I would gladly trade 2 of our Quad 4 wins for 2 close Quad 1 losses, especially on the road.
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1/27/25
NET = 45
BT = 42
KP = 35
Realistic at-large path........finish Top 4 seed (for A-10 Tourney) and reach 24 (D-1) wins by Selection Saturday night (with A-10 remaining Top 7 NET conf).
9 more D-1 wins (of any variety)..........12-14 games remaining (11 reg season + 1-3 A-10 tourney)
Scenario A
Current D-1 record = 15-4
Remaining 11 reg season games = 9-2
Final reg season D-1 record = 24-6 overall, 15-3 conf (likely #1 seed)
A-10 Tourney = 0-1 (lose Fri vs #8 seed on a neutral floor)
Selection Sat night = 24-7; NET range = 33-43; NCAA 10-11 seed
Scenario B
Current D-1 record = 15-4
Remaining 11 reg season games = 8-3
Final reg season D-1 record = 23-7 overall, 14-4 conf (likely #2 seed)
A-10 Tourney = 1-1 (win Fri vs #7 seed; lose Sat vs #3 seed on a neutral floor)
Selection Sat night = 24-8; NET range = 33-43; NCAA 10-11 seed
Scenario C
Current D-1 record = 15-4
Remaining 11 reg season games = 7-4
Final reg season D-1 record = 22-8 overall, 13-5 conf (likely #3 seed)
A-10 Tourney = 2-0 (win Fri vs #6 seed; win Sat vs #2 seed on a neutral floor)
Selection Sat night = 24-8; NET range = 33-43; NCAA 10-11 seed
Notes:
1) Scheduling a D-2 was a mistake (one less D-1 win for a team typically in bubble territory)
2) The A-10 (NET #7 conference) will likely still (somehow) end up being a 2-bid league
3) The committee generally completes the field late Sat night (w/ Sunday contingency plans)
4) Since 2009, VCU has never missed an NCAA tourney w/ 23+ wins (CAA/A-10 has never been higher than current #7 NET conf)
5) The necessary qualifying "at-large worthy" metrics (NET, KP, BT, RPI, BPI, SOS, SOR, Top 100 wins, road/neutral record, etc) will almost always result from (or support) a cumulative D-1 win total (24+) combined with a #7 (NET) conf rank/strength.
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