The Official Beat the South Florida Bulls in Tampa in the NIT Thread

Frankly, it being random or just at the NCAA's whims makes a lot more sense than anything else I'd heard. As I said, I hadn't seen anything that ranked the "unseeded" teams.

The data isn’t as transparent but some sites suggest that the NCAA collects the NIT ticket revenue. So maybe bigger arena = more tickets to sell and they get the nod.

Nobody has seen a list that ranks the unseeded
 
Yes, but not any more. It was in Las Vegas last year. The NCAA is now letting cities bid for the semifinals/championship games just like they do for the NCAA Tournament. Any future sites after this year have not been determined yet.



Back in the day when the NIT was bigger than the NCAA, the field was smaller and ALL games were played at the old MSG. Eventually only the semi-finals and final came to be played there with many early round games elsewhere. That ended two years ago. The NCAA now owning the tournament after it had been the property of a NYC entity was probably a factor in its move. Another factor was that attendance and interest in the event at MSG had very much waned over the years. There were far more empty seats than occupied in the venue that likes to brand itself as the World's Most Famous Arena.
 
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The data isn’t as transparent but some sites suggest that the NCAA collects the NIT ticket revenue. So maybe bigger arena = more tickets to sell and they get the nod
This is something that at least makes sense.
 
Can't for the life of me understand why this tournament seeding guys didn't find a way to get a Stu game on TV. I call that Stu-pid. See what I did there?

For starters, P6 schools were guaranteed 2 spots each in the tournament and also guaranteed first round home games. That's 12 out of the possible 16 first round home games. Princeton, Indiana State, Bradley got 3 out of the remaining 4 first round home games. That left one remaining home game and they gave it to Butler. Probably because they bid to host the semifinals/final at Hinkle Fieldhouse.
 
Frankly, it being random or just at the NCAA's whims makes a lot more sense than anything else I'd heard. As I said, I hadn't seen anything that ranked the "unseeded" teams.

Do you guys not know how to read a bracket?????????? The NIT listed the top 4 seeds in each region in their bracket. If you are playing a #1 seed, then your seed is #8, as was the case with VCU against Villanova. If you are a #2 seed, you played the #7 seed. If you are the #3 seed, you played the #6 seed. If you are the #4 seed, you played the #5 seed.

USF was a #5 seed playing #4 seed UCF. VCU was a #8 seed playing #1 seed Villanova. #4 and #8 advance with the #4 seed hosting the second round game. This is NOT rocket science!

FYI. fur was a #6 seed that played at #3 seed VA Tech. Loyola-Chicago was also a #6 seed that played at #3 seed Bradley. St. Bonaventure was one of 17 schools to decline an NIT invitation, and now their AD has abruptly resigned.


 
None of the unseeded teams have officially been seeded. The unseeded teams were, for the most part, placed against their closest travel destination.

Nothing was put out explaining why USF gets to host.

You can do the math and figure out the remaining seeds. See my post above.
 
Do you guys not know how to read a bracket?????????? The NIT listed the top 4 seeds in each region in their bracket. If you are playing a #1 seed, then your seed is #8, as was the case with VCU against Villanova. If you are a #2 seed, you played the #7 seed. If you are the #3 seed, you played the #6 seed. If you are the #4 seed, you played the #5 seed.

USF was a #5 seed playing #4 seed UCF. VCU was a #8 seed playing #1 seed Villanova. #4 and #8 advance with the #4 seed hosting the second round game. This is NOT rocket science!

FYI. fur was a #6 seed that played at #3 seed VA Tech. Loyola-Chicago was also a #6 seed that played at #3 seed Bradley. St. Bonaventure was one of 17 schools to decline an NIT invitation, and now their AD has abruptly resigned.



I don’t believe that’s how the matchups were arranged. They seeded the top 16, then matchups were determined by considering geography, not matching two from the same conference and not matching teams that played in the OOC to the extent possible. The only thing we can say definitively is VCU was not seeded—- maybe we were an eight, maybe we were a six, who knows. Doesn’t really matter that much and truth be told, since the NIT gets the ticket receipts, maybe it’s a good thing we didn’t get a home game (financially).
 
I hadn't seen a seeding list for the "unseeded" teams. So, now that it's established ... let's ask ourselves WHY South Florida is seeded three spots higher than VCU when their season-end NET ranking is seven spots higher. I don't get it. At maximum there should be one spot between them in the NIT, and logically VCU should be seeded higher. South Florida has a Q1 win to their name this past season, but they only played one Q1 game! They played TWELVE Q4 games!

Probably because they won the regular season AAC, had a better record than VCU, beat Memphis when they were ranked #10/#12 and beat Florida Atlantic when they were ranked #24.
 
I don’t believe that’s how the matchups were arranged. They seeded the top 16, then matchups were determined by considering geography, not matching two from the same conference and not matching teams that played in the OOC to the extent possible. The only thing we can say definitively is VCU was not seeded—- maybe we were an eight, maybe we were a six, who knows. Doesn’t really matter that much and truth be told, since the NIT gets the ticket receipts, maybe it’s a good thing we didn’t get a home game (financially).

You guys read WAY too much into how the NCAA operates trying to find a "conspiracy" theory! And to prove your theory wrong, UNLV had to play at Princeton in the first round, SMU played at Indiana State and San Francisco played at Cincinnati. And most second round games, the schools are not that geographically close.
 
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You guys read WAY too much into how the NCAA operates trying to find a "conspiracy" theory! And to prove your theory wrong, UNLV had to play at Princeton in the first round, SMU played at Indiana State and San Francisco played at Cincinnati. And most second round games, the schools are not that geographically close.
Conspiracy…what? It’s not a theory, it was discussed on the selection show.
 
Do you guys not know how to read a bracket?????????? The NIT listed the top 4 seeds in each region in their bracket. If you are playing a #1 seed, then your seed is #8, as was the case with VCU against Villanova. If you are a #2 seed, you played the #7 seed. If you are the #3 seed, you played the #6 seed. If you are the #4 seed, you played the #5 seed.

USF was a #5 seed playing #4 seed UCF. VCU was a #8 seed playing #1 seed Villanova. #4 and #8 advance with the #4 seed hosting the second round game. This is NOT rocket science!

FYI. fur was a #6 seed that played at #3 seed VA Tech. Loyola-Chicago was also a #6 seed that played at #3 seed Bradley. St. Bonaventure was one of 17 schools to decline an NIT invitation, and now their AD has abruptly resigned.


My understanding is that the NIT intentionally does not seed the 1st-round road teams, so that if they play each other, the NIT can select the home site at its own discretion. This game could be played at VCU, but the NIT thinks it will make more money if its in Tampa.

(I could be wrong I just learned this today elsewhere on the internet)
 
My understanding is that the NIT intentionally does not seed the 1st-round road teams, so that if they play each other, the NIT can select the home site at its own discretion. This game could be played at VCU, but the NIT thinks it will make more money if its in Tampa.

(I could be wrong I just learned this today elsewhere on the internet)

I still believe it's based on seeding. Years ago, schools had to bid for NIT home games as they progressed through the bracket. The NIT also didn't publish brackets back then either. If you won, you had no idea who your next opponent was until it was announced prior to the next game. That was also before the NCAA took over the NIT.
 
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